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[repulsewarrior]

...if this continues, from my perspective, it will be Eroglu who will bring down his own deck of cards. in any case, there will be elections soon, Mr. Eroglu may have other things on his mind, and it seems that he is not a man to run on his record (what has he done for the people he serves), but on the promise to resist any change that is not "Turkish".

...at best he is no Statesman, but the Leader of a Constituency; if he had an equal we would not, as Cypriots, be having this discussion, (i think everyone agrees, except one). and since he has doggedly resisted the notion of a Cyprus because of its "Greekness", he should be happy to discuss "Turkishness", that which is within his realm, if Sovereignty were not in the equation, or the Rule of Law, and Human Rights, within a set of Cypriot Constituencies to divvy up their Territorial Jurisdictions in unanimity, toward reform (i suggest the most he can hope for) if there existed this level of government, within, a Republic of Cyprus: this is Bicommunal.

...yes, let Eroglu stand, a Cypriot Flag behind him.

[Viewpoint]

but when your dealing with someone who dosent know what there talking about it can be frustrating at times.

I know the feeling when I have to explain things to VP about federation, Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and the EU Principles, and all VP says is, Enosis, Enosis, Enosis......!

Why do you want to ignore the root of the problem and any checks and balances we demand, if they are totally useless? then hopefully they will never come into play, or do you as we always suspect have hidden agendas?

[boulio]

because the checks and balances that the tc leadership demand are racist and will create a aparthied stae in cyprus.this has no place in the EU.

[Kikapu]

but when your dealing with someone who dosent know what there talking about it can be frustrating at times.

I know the feeling when I have to explain things to VP about federation, Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and the EU Principles, and all VP says is, Enosis, Enosis, Enosis......!

Why do you want to ignore the root of the problem and any checks and balances we demand, if they are totally useless? then hopefully they will never come into play, or do you as we always suspect have hidden agendas?

I do not ignore "checks & balances". In a True Democracy, there are many checks & balances that come with it. What you call checks & balances that you demand are violations of others Democratic and Human Rights. That's what I'm against.

[Viewpoint]

but when your dealing with someone who dosent know what there talking about it can be frustrating at times.

I know the feeling when I have to explain things to VP about federation, Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and the EU Principles, and all VP says is, Enosis, Enosis, Enosis......!

Why do you want to ignore the root of the problem and any checks and balances we demand, if they are totally useless? then hopefully they will never come into play, or do you as we always suspect have hidden agendas?

I do not ignore "checks & balances". In a True Democracy, there are many checks & balances that come with it. What you call checks & balances that you demand are violations of others Democratic and Human Rights. That's what I'm against.

You want to entrap the TCs by taking away their rights as a community forcing them in minority status all under the guise of what you believe is right and wrong labelling it true federation true democracy and human rights for all. You applied the US system and was suprised to find out that one size does not fit all, Cyprus has to have a system similar but not necessarily exactly the same. Cyprus needs more checks and balances to provide a foundation for trust understanding and development towards better things, you cannot force anything on the TCs anymore those days are over and we have 50% of the say in any future solution.

[Nikitas]

Checks and balances sounds good, till the first EU regulation comes through and has to be incorporated into both Federal and local law and then it gets funny. If it does not pass one regional legislature does the other one, the "rebel" one, pay the fines? They can amount to millions per day.

In short, the game has changed, drastically, since EU membership.

[Viewpoint]

Checks and balances sounds good, till the first EU regulation comes through and has to be incorporated into both Federal and local law and then it gets funny. If it does not pass one regional legislature does the other one, the "rebel" one, pay the fines? They can amount to millions per day.

In short, the game has changed, drastically, since EU membership.

Please provide an example, everyone appears to be just making sweeping statements. There will be cases where the EU will have to accept derrogations or transition periods.

[boulio]

Derogations will not be permanent ,so you better start get things in line in the north.do you expect to get into the EU officially and listen to turkey?

[Viewpoint]

Derogations will not be permanent ,so you better start get things in line in the north.do you expect to get into the EU officially and listen to turkey?

Im not pro EU, nor were we asked if we wanted to enter so if there will ever be a solution we will complete whatever is necessary derrogations and transitional periods included.

[Oceanside50]

the north

..occupied territories