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Re: WSJ says Turkey no longer US ally, air base should be mo

Postby Lordo » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:33 pm

Jerry wrote:
Lordo wrote:really, i did not realise usa was attacked and they needed terkish help. what an idiotic suggestion. it can only come from a true charlui.

the best thing the yanks can do is pack up including their fleet and leave the area. then we shall have peace.


Idiot yourself, NATO considers itself threatened by ISIS and the Yanks are asking Erdo for help. The treaty Turkey has signed obliges them to help but the we all know that Turkey never keeps its word.

how many aircraft carriers does isis have off the coast of usa. it is the most idiotic argument i have ever heard. the yanks should pack up their bags and return home so we can all have some peace.

amerika katil. this old anatolian tells it how it is. listen and learn.

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Re: WSJ says Turkey no longer US ally, air base should be mo

Postby Oceanside50 » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:48 pm

Turkey doesn't want to participate because Isis and turkey have the same ideology.
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Re: WSJ says Turkey no longer US ally, air base should be mo

Postby Jerry » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:NATO considers itself threatened by ISIS and the Yanks are asking Erdo for help.

:shock: You can’t be THAT stupid! No way… :lol:

NATO is “threatened” by 10,000 odd ragheads armed with Kalashnikovs?

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Not my view but that of NATO, however, several hundred ragheads are British, they have threatened to return to the UK and continue their murderous campaign. It's happened before in London, the threats are very real.
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Re: WSJ says Turkey no longer US ally, air base should be mo

Postby Jerry » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:21 am

Get Real! wrote:Were you also one of those who fell for the “Saddam has WMDs!!!” back in 1991 by any chance? :lol:

I’ll bet you were! :wink:


Well you'd lose the bet, I felt the inspectors should have been given more time to do their job, I seem to recall they were sceptical themselves at the time but didn't have enough time to be sure.
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Re: WSJ says Turkey no longer US ally, air base should be mo

Postby Kikapu » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:45 am

Jerry wrote:
Lordo wrote:really, i did not realise usa was attacked and they needed terkish help. what an idiotic suggestion. it can only come from a true charlui.

the best thing the yanks can do is pack up including their fleet and leave the area. then we shall have peace.


Idiot yourself, NATO considers itself threatened by ISIS and the Yanks are asking Erdo for help. The treaty Turkey has signed obliges them to help but the we all know that Turkey never keeps its word.


It is just another ploy by the USA to get Turkey into a war, just so that Turkey gets a bloody nose. The same was tried to get Turkey into Syria, but no dice. Turkey knows USA's end game, and that is to get Turkey partitioned, and what better way to do it than to get Turkey into any kind of a war in her neighbourhood. Turks are smart about this, but at the same time, it shows they are a toothless tiger and also pissing off her allies by refusing to stand with them, which is not so smart thing by the Turks to do, so, in the end, the USA may still achieve it's objectives in dividing Turkey through the back door.
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Re: WSJ says Turkey no longer US ally, air base should be mo

Postby Demonax » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:49 am

On this subject....

Congress Goes After 'Frenemies' Turkey, Qatar

Congress delivered its staunchest warning to date on Sept. 9 that Turkey and Qatar could face financial and other penalties if they continue to support Hamas and other US-designated terrorist organizations.

Frustration that had been mounting for months if not years boiled over as lawmakers returned from an August recess marked by the conflict in Gaza. During a hearing on "Hamas' benefactors," members of both parties agreed with witnesses who described the two countries as US "frenemies" and endorsed calls for a much tougher line.


http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... rkey-qatar
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Re: WSJ says Turkey no longer US ally, air base should be mo

Postby Demonax » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:36 am

The neo-cons have really got it in for Turkey:

‘Turkey was the past and, for the United States, Kurdistan is the future’


http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/ ... both-ways/
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Re: WSJ says Turkey no longer US ally, air base should be mo

Postby B25 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:11 am

Welcome back Demon:)
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Re: WSJ says Turkey no longer US ally, air base should be mo

Postby Oceanside50 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:49 pm

Demonax wrote:The neo-cons have really got it in for Turkey:

‘Turkey was the past and, for the United States, Kurdistan is the future’


http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/ ... both-ways/


They have strong support from the religious right wing, which supports Israel vehemently..
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Re: WSJ says Turkey no longer US ally, air base should be mo

Postby Kikapu » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:46 am

Kikapu wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Lordo wrote:really, i did not realise usa was attacked and they needed terkish help. what an idiotic suggestion. it can only come from a true charlui.

the best thing the yanks can do is pack up including their fleet and leave the area. then we shall have peace.


Idiot yourself, NATO considers itself threatened by ISIS and the Yanks are asking Erdo for help. The treaty Turkey has signed obliges them to help but the we all know that Turkey never keeps its word.


It is just another ploy by the USA to get Turkey into a war, just so that Turkey gets a bloody nose. The same was tried to get Turkey into Syria, but no dice. Turkey knows USA's end game, and that is to get Turkey partitioned, and what better way to do it than to get Turkey into any kind of a war in her neighbourhood. Turks are smart about this, but at the same time, it shows they are a toothless tiger and also pissing off her allies by refusing to stand with them, which is not so smart thing by the Turks to do, so, in the end, the USA may still achieve it's objectives in dividing Turkey through the back door.


Mr. Bloody (Kanli) is always late to the party! :wink:

Turkey too is always too late to the party, as the case has been in Libya, Syria, Iraq, and now against ISIL, the very same terrorist they have been supporting in Syria. Now that ISIL is also threatening Turkey, the Turks have ZERO excuse left why they should stay out of this conflict. The west were going to get Turkey into this war no matter how much Turkey was yelling and screaming against joining this war. The west wants to make sure Turkey gets a bloody nose out of this. The plans are in place for the destruction of Erdogan and eastern part of Turkey! Call it the "New World Order"!


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News coming from across the Atlantic is getting more to the point: It is in Turkey’s best interest to join the coalition and fight the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) terrorists. The Department of State is stressing that. Washington is sending Ankara president, vice president and various junior levels the very same message. Is it really so? Is it in Turkey’s best interest to engage in a war?

Is this our war? Shall we fight it? What will be the outcome? Would we not indeed help Turkey’s disintegration while assuming we are fighting an Islamist Sunni militia? How could death be in our best interest?

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/death- ... sCatID=425
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