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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Cap » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:44 pm

Pour trillions into Africa... and you still get Africa. (aint nobody gives a sh**, save for Ebola that is... everybody's scared of Ebola)

Pour trillions into Israel and you get exactly what you'd expect. An oasis civilization in the middle of a desert.
Guaranteed front page news.
Money utilized in a single minded effort to survive against all odds. Kicking your ass to guarantee a motherland.

Pour money into Palestine..hell, throw in the entire planets fury, trillions in donations, international media support, Social media support, Human Rights activists,
and you still get stone throwing savages.

Try pouring trillions into CY and you gonna get a bitchslapping of note.
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:50 am

Oceanside50 wrote:The protocols of Zion are a hoax

Not at all! …but the Jews have gone out of their way to flood the Internet with articles calling it a “hoax”! Why so much effort?

If it’s a hoax then how come so much of it has come to pass? Explain that!

How come it describes Israel’s stance and attitude to a “T”? Explain that!

So not only was the author a “master hoaxer” but he was also capable of predicting the future with such accuracy via a “hoax” 150 years ago? What genius!

Listen carefully to Brother Nathaniel: :wink:

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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Oceanside50 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:39 am

Brother Nathaniel is full of it. A priest wouldn't denigrate a group of people the way brother Nathaniel has in this video. A priests only concern should be to help people understand the word of God and not to preach hate against Jews . The Jews in recent history have made great contributions to all sciences, literature etc etc..the Jews have been int existence for thousands of years and believe in the Old Testament just like Christians. This guy is saying the same people that came up with the Old Testament also came up with a way to destroy people's moralsin order to be able to conquer them. You could also say, the Greeks gave the world logic through Socrates but today the Greeks are acting like idiots in order to conquer the world and then rule the world through logic.... Now it makes sense :roll:
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Sotos » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:59 am

Oceanside50 wrote:
Sotos wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Sotos wrote:I actually watched the whole thing :shock: :shock: Interesting ... but still... his claim is that the numbers were exaggerated. Even if 1 million (instead of 4) died at Auschwitz, and even if they were not gassed but they died in the camp because of starvation and disease it would STILL be a genocide. He does not deny that the Jews
were targeted and that in one way or another millions of them died because of the Nazis. Kurupetos, even you seem to have some pathological hate for the Jews... add to such hate the power of the Nazis before/during WWII and the Holocaust becomes a very possible outcome even before examining any evidence ;)

It's not much of a holocaust (or a genocide), if only a few Jews died. :roll: Many more Russians, Poles and Greeks died than Jews, but I have never heard of a Russian, Polish or Greek Holocaust. Why? :x

In reality, all these exaggerations were part of the plan to allow Jews to form Israel in 1948... :wink:


1 million at Auschwitz alone and several million in total is not "few".... and that is with the lower estimate. Others had big losses also but the difference is that the Jews had the biggest loses as a percentage of their population ... about 50% of them were killed!! The Soviets had more losses in absolute numbers but much smaller % of their total population. And it is not that the Russians and the others who had loses are silent about it.... it is a big deal for them too. I don't agree with trying to downplay the murder of millions. But I agree that some used this as an excuse to create Israel ... if anything a Jewish state should have been formed on German lands to punish the Germans... not in Palestine to screw the Palestinians who had nothing to do with the Holocaust.


the Jews began buying land (late 1800's)throughout Transjordan and the Palestinian elite thought they were getting great deals on useless land. The more land they bought the more the Palestinian elite wanted to sell. in many instances Palestinian sharecroppers working the lands of the elites were allowed to stay. Water rights were shared by the Jews with the Palestinians..the Jews didn't all of a sudden appear in 1948 and create Israel.. Trying to equate the Cyprus problem with the Israeli Palestinian issue is a mistake


According to Wikipedia:

In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.


So in 1914 they were an 8% minority. Most of the Jews were imported to Palestine by the British. I am not equating what happened there to the Cyprus problem... but the British upgrading a small minority for the purpose of divide and rule is something that both cases have in common.
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:20 am

Oceanside50 wrote:Brother Nathaniel is full of it. A priest wouldn't denigrate a group of people the way brother Nathaniel has in this video. A priests only concern should be to help people understand the word of God and not to preach hate against Jews . The Jews in recent history have made great contributions to all sciences, literature etc etc..the Jews have been int existence for thousands of years and believe in the Old Testament just like Christians. This guy is saying the same people that came up with the Old Testament also came up with a way to destroy people's moralsin order to be able to conquer them. You could also say, the Greeks gave the world logic through Socrates but today the Greeks are acting like idiots in order to conquer the world and then rule the world through logic.... Now it makes sense :roll:

So which part of your post above is meant to prove that “The Protocols of Zion” is a hoax? :?

These disgusting satanic people were caught with their pants down and you want to defend them? :|

Speaks volumes about your character! :?
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Sotos » Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:22 am

Cap wrote:Pour trillions into Africa... and you still get Africa. (aint nobody gives a sh**, save for Ebola that is... everybody's scared of Ebola)

Pour trillions into Israel and you get exactly what you'd expect. An oasis civilization in the middle of a desert.
Guaranteed front page news.
Money utilized in a single minded effort to survive against all odds. Kicking your ass to guarantee a motherland.

Pour money into Palestine..hell, throw in the entire planets fury, trillions in donations, international media support, Social media support, Human Rights activists,
and you still get stone throwing savages.

Try pouring trillions into CY and you gonna get a bitchslapping of note.


Africa is a continent with a population of over 1 billion people. Israel is a country of 8 million people, 6 million if you exclude the Arabs. In other words if you give 1 billion to Africa, each African will get less than 1 dollar. If you give 1 billion to Israel each Jew will get over 165 dollars.

This is interesting:

Congressional researchers have disclosed that between 1974 and 1989, $16.4 billion in U.S. military loans were converted to grants and that this was the understanding from the beginning. Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress


Unlike other countries, which receive aid in quarterly installments, aid to Israel since 1982 has been given in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year, leaving the U.S. government to borrow from future revenues. Israel even lends some of this money back through U.S. treasury bills and collects the additional interest.


In addition, there is the more than $1.5 billion in private U.S. funds that go to Israel annually in the form of $1 billion in private tax-deductible donations and $500 million in Israeli bonds. The ability of Americans to make what amounts to tax-deductible contributions to a foreign government, made possible through a number of Jewish charities, does not exist with any other country.


Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes.


http://www.wrmea.org/congress-u.s.-aid- ... mpact.html
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Oceanside50 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:41 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:Brother Nathaniel is full of it. A priest wouldn't denigrate a group of people the way brother Nathaniel has in this video. A priests only concern should be to help people understand the word of God and not to preach hate against Jews . The Jews in recent history have made great contributions to all sciences, literature etc etc..the Jews have been int existence for thousands of years and believe in the Old Testament just like Christians. This guy is saying the same people that came up with the Old Testament also came up with a way to destroy people's moralsin order to be able to conquer them. You could also say, the Greeks gave the world logic through Socrates but today the Greeks are acting like idiots in order to conquer the world and then rule the world through logic.... Now it makes sense :roll:

So which part of your post above is meant to prove that “The Protocols of Zion” is a hoax? :?

These disgusting satanic people were caught with their pants down and you want to defend them? :|

Speaks volumes about your character! :?


Don't worry about it man. Someone studied human history very well and in depth and then wrote this thing to legitimize the genocide of the Jews..this thing with the Jews started with the Christian church blaming Jews for the crucifixion.. And since then it's been Christians killing the Jews in genocidal numbers. Maybe the Christians are manifesting their biggest fears. Oppressing the Jews throughout the centuries and the jews finding ways to defend themselves
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:36 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:The protocols of Zion are a hoax

Not at all! …but the Jews have gone out of their way to flood the Internet with articles calling it a “hoax”! Why so much effort?

If it’s a hoax then how come so much of it has come to pass? Explain that!

How come it describes Israel’s stance and attitude to a “T”? Explain that!

So not only was the author a “master hoaxer” but he was also capable of predicting the future with such accuracy via a “hoax” 150 years ago? What genius!

Listen carefully to Brother Nathaniel: :wink:



A very desperate post from you.

Never in my entire life have I heard an Israeli even refer to "The Protocols". It's just general belief and a proven fact that it is a hoax and it is not the Israelis that say so because to be frank I don't think they actually give a damn about an irrelevant book.

Further to this, you post a YouTube from "Brother Nathaniel". The guy has a history of mental illness and the Orthodox Church has tried to distance itself from his personal views which appear quite neurotic.

You however should be very ashamed of yourself and I expected a lot more. Do yourself a favour and go on a holiday to the "Holy Lands" to follow the footsteps of Jesus Christ. Then go to Amman and perhaps visit one of my favourite cities Muscat in Oman. There are good and bad in all people's but generally speaking, the Sunnis in the Gulf States and the Israelis are superb people. Both are suffering from some bad press.

Despite contrary belief, Jews and Muslims actually get along like a house on fire. Believe it or not, Rabbis actually perform the ritual at abattoirs for Halal and Imams are actually certified to conduct the kosher certification process for Jews if a Rabbi is not available. The 2 have at least that in common but on top of this, Israelis have no interest at all, in killing Palestinians or conducting any Genocide as you put it. Most Palestinians also know the realities and are eager for a peace process which will involve an Israeli withdrawal to pre 1967 lines and a 2 State solution. Unfortunately there are fanatics on both sides. The fanatics on the Israeli side (the Orthodox Jews) are on the outer. The fanatics on the Palestinian side are in power (Hamas).

The Israelis will NOT just cower and have their State destroyed. They do have international legitimacy. They will defend it no matter what and they have every right to do so. At the same time, Hamas has no interest in a peaceful solution or a 2 State Solution and Israel will not even negotiate with them. At the end of the day, the Palestinians have to Get Real and come to terms with certain realities and come up with some representatives other than Hamas who are willing to negotiate with the Israelis.

The Israelis (non Orthodox fundamentalists) have no issue at all with a 2 State Solution under such conditions provided that all rocket attacks and cross border hostilities and attacks cease immediately. They actually want Hamas to abide by the ceasefire which they agreed to and at all times was broken by Hamas and never by Israel.

That's the only way forward.

Furthermore, it is absolutely atrocious that you of all people would express such views and cite "The protocols" and "Brother Nathaniel" as a relevant argument in support of your lunacy and racism which does absolutely no good for Cyprus. There is a small Jewish Community on the island and Israelis are generally a very nice people, similar in many respects to us in every possible way. If you want industrious then look no further. They have come a long way in a very short time.

There is an Israeli that frequents this forum and I would say they are one of the nicest people on this forum. A little too nice for the likes of many here, including yourself with this very irresponsible attempt of Holocaust Denial. There is not one single Jewish Family that has not been affected by the Holocaust and you of all people should show a bit of restraint and respect. :roll:

Your posts are out of character.
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:57 pm

" The guy has a history of mental illness and the Orthodox Church has tried to distance itself from his personal views which appear quite neurotic. "

A bit like the psychopath on CF then :lol: :lol:
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby kurupetos » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:08 pm

miltiades wrote:" The guy has a history of mental illness and the Orthodox Church has tried to distance itself from his personal views which appear quite neurotic. "

Source? :roll:
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