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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby miltiades » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:24 am

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miltiades wrote:A quick search on the internet will confirm that 99% of terrorist groups are .... religious !!!

In Kenya, in the recent massacre, religion was the deciding factor in determining who lived and who was murdered.

Boko Haram enter a village killing and beheading dozens of innocent villagers. They say that their god tells them to kill non believers.

A quick search will also reveal that there is not one single group of non believers listed as a terrorist group. Yes there are criminal gangs not affiliated to religion, these gangs are just pure evil individuals committing horrific crimes in their lust for money.

Religion, the world over, has contributed NOTHING to world peace, has divided people, instilled fear and hatred, kept people in the dark ages.


That may be the case, 99% of terrorist groups may be religious, but are 99% of religious groups terrorists?

The PKK are not a religious group and they are down as terrorists.
The IRA was down as terrorist's but not religious.
out of the equation.
What has killed more people, religious terrorist's or the corporate oligarchy in the modern secular world?

There are some exceptions, IRA was not one. Protestants against Catholics ?

The fact of the matter is that people are being murdered daily because of their religious ideology.

If a creator did exist, did create man, then he did not make a very good job did he?

By the way who created God ?? Difficult question if man was not the creator of god.

I have often challenged religious people to name just one tangible benefit humanity has derived from religion. The answer of course is NIL, taking hope and spiritual attainment out of the equation.
Babies born with severe deformities, deceases that have wiped out billions of people, only science comes to the rescue, medical progress created by MAN has made huge strides in eradicating or keeping decease at bay.

Imagine a very religious family faced with a very sick child, yes they will pray, but it is to a hospital that their child will be brought at not to a holy place.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:42 am

miltiades wrote:The fact of the matter is that people are being murdered daily because of their religious ideology.


That doesn't give you an excuse to blame 'religious ideology'. Substitute 'race' or 'skin-colour':

"The fact of the matter is that people are being murdered daily because of their race."

Now, that doesn't mean your 'race' or 'skin-colour' is to blame, does it? Otherwise, should everyone turn 'white'?
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:50 am

Although religion has been used as a vehicle for murder and war by some lunatics, it does not mean that religion is the curse of humanity. It does not mean that those that have been murdered should not have a religion because some lunatics of a different faith exist that do not tolerate them.

There are many teachings of good will to humanity in many religions.

Furthermore, the advancements in medicine, technology and the sciences would not have been possible without the correct belief system to support them. Without the ethical and moral code of Christianity, the tangible benefits which you enjoy probably would not exist today.

So to answer your question, what tangible benefit to humanity has derived from religion? -- Everything
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby miltiades » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:02 pm

Maximus wrote:Although religion has been used as a vehicle for murder and war by some lunatics, it does not mean that religion is the curse of humanity. It does not mean that those that have been murdered should not have a religion because some lunatics of a different faith exist that do not tolerate them.

There are many teachings of good will to humanity in many religions.

Furthermore, the advancements in medicine, technology and the sciences would not have been possible without the correct belief system to support them. Without the ethical and moral code of Christianity, the tangible benefits which you enjoy probably would not exist today.

So to answer your question, what tangible benefit to humanity has derived from religion? -- Everything

Name one, not spiritual rubbish, tangible real benefits to either world peace or medical advancement.

Cancer is one of the worlds oldest decease. Let god find a cure, after all he created everything, presumably cancer too!!
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:08 pm

miltiades wrote:
Maximus wrote:Although religion has been used as a vehicle for murder and war by some lunatics, it does not mean that religion is the curse of humanity. It does not mean that those that have been murdered should not have a religion because some lunatics of a different faith exist that do not tolerate them.

There are many teachings of good will to humanity in many religions.

Furthermore, the advancements in medicine, technology and the sciences would not have been possible without the correct belief system to support them. Without the ethical and moral code of Christianity, the tangible benefits which you enjoy probably would not exist today.

So to answer your question, what tangible benefit to humanity has derived from religion? -- Everything

Name one, not spiritual rubbish, tangible real benefits to either world peace or medical advancement.

Cancer is one of the worlds oldest decease. Let god find a cure, after all he created everything, presumably cancer too!!


Europe was once a continent consumed by war. The EU emerged.

Issac newton was a Christian. He discovered the laws of motion.

Alexander flemming was Roman Catholic. He discovered Penicillin.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby miltiades » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:17 pm

Maximus wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Maximus wrote:Although religion has been used as a vehicle for murder and war by some lunatics, it does not mean that religion is the curse of humanity. It does not mean that those that have been murdered should not have a religion because some lunatics of a different faith exist that do not tolerate them.

There are many teachings of good will to humanity in many religions.

Furthermore, the advancements in medicine, technology and the sciences would not have been possible without the correct belief system to support them. Without the ethical and moral code of Christianity, the tangible benefits which you enjoy probably would not exist today.

So to answer your question, what tangible benefit to humanity has derived from religion? -- Everything

Name one, not spiritual rubbish, tangible real benefits to either world peace or medical advancement.

Cancer is one of the worlds oldest decease. Let god find a cure, after all he created everything, presumably cancer too!!


Europe was once a continent consumed by war. The EU emerged.

Issac newton was a Christian. He discovered the laws of motion.

Alexander flemming was Roman Catholic. He discovered Penicillin.

Indeed they were !! But they were men. I believe Hitler was religious too !!
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:21 pm

miltiades wrote:
Maximus wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Maximus wrote:Although religion has been used as a vehicle for murder and war by some lunatics, it does not mean that religion is the curse of humanity. It does not mean that those that have been murdered should not have a religion because some lunatics of a different faith exist that do not tolerate them.

There are many teachings of good will to humanity in many religions.

Furthermore, the advancements in medicine, technology and the sciences would not have been possible without the correct belief system to support them. Without the ethical and moral code of Christianity, the tangible benefits which you enjoy probably would not exist today.

So to answer your question, what tangible benefit to humanity has derived from religion? -- Everything

Name one, not spiritual rubbish, tangible real benefits to either world peace or medical advancement.

Cancer is one of the worlds oldest decease. Let god find a cure, after all he created everything, presumably cancer too!!


Europe was once a continent consumed by war. The EU emerged.

Issac newton was a Christian. He discovered the laws of motion.

Alexander flemming was Roman Catholic. He discovered Penicillin.

Indeed they were !! But they were men. I believe Hitler was religious too !!


Yes, Hitler was also a man and he had a religion.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Garavnoss » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:34 pm

miltiades wrote:
Maximus wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Maximus wrote:Although religion has been used as a vehicle for murder and war by some lunatics, it does not mean that religion is the curse of humanity. It does not mean that those that have been murdered should not have a religion because some lunatics of a different faith exist that do not tolerate them.

There are many teachings of good will to humanity in many religions.

Furthermore, the advancements in medicine, technology and the sciences would not have been possible without the correct belief system to support them. Without the ethical and moral code of Christianity, the tangible benefits which you enjoy probably would not exist today.

So to answer your question, what tangible benefit to humanity has derived from religion? -- Everything

Name one, not spiritual rubbish, tangible real benefits to either world peace or medical advancement.

Cancer is one of the worlds oldest decease. Let god find a cure, after all he created everything, presumably cancer too!!


Europe was once a continent consumed by war. The EU emerged.

Issac newton was a Christian. He discovered the laws of motion.

Alexander flemming was Roman Catholic. He discovered Penicillin.

Indeed they were !! But they were men. I believe Hitler was religious too !!




Hitler discovered the reason for human disharmony, he died before he could eradicate it.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby miltiades » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:49 pm

Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Maximus wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Maximus wrote:Although religion has been used as a vehicle for murder and war by some lunatics, it does not mean that religion is the curse of humanity. It does not mean that those that have been murdered should not have a religion because some lunatics of a different faith exist that do not tolerate them.

There are many teachings of good will to humanity in many religions.

Furthermore, the advancements in medicine, technology and the sciences would not have been possible without the correct belief system to support them. Without the ethical and moral code of Christianity, the tangible benefits which you enjoy probably would not exist today.

So to answer your question, what tangible benefit to humanity has derived from religion? -- Everything

Name one, not spiritual rubbish, tangible real benefits to either world peace or medical advancement.

Cancer is one of the worlds oldest decease. Let god find a cure, after all he created everything, presumably cancer too!!


Europe was once a continent consumed by war. The EU emerged.

Issac newton was a Christian. He discovered the laws of motion.

Alexander flemming was Roman Catholic. He discovered Penicillin.

Indeed they were !! But they were men. I believe Hitler was religious too !!




Hitler discovered the reason for human disharmony, he died before he could eradicate it.

But not before he wiped out millions of Jews !!!
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:57 pm

Hitler was Christian (Roman Catholic) and he also wiped out a lot of Christians.
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