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Re: SHOULD I BUY A LAPTOP IN UK OR CYPRUS

Postby Sotos » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:39 am

Milti, for almost every product there are good and bad reviews ... you have to see the overall rating. That laptop has a very low end CPU and 1/3rd of the reviewers give it 1 star even though the price is so low and their expectations couldn't be high!! Your old Samsung NP350U5C is MANY times better. It has an i5 CPU which gets an average mark of 3797. That new laptop you bought now gets 865 ... it is more than 4 times slower!!!

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu ... 40+2.50GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu ... 2+Graphics

The ones I suggested are still slower than your Samsung at about the 2500 average mark ... the bare minimum for an OK experience!
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Re: SHOULD I BUY A LAPTOP IN UK OR CYPRUS

Postby Sotos » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:55 am

She will not be using it for long, she will grow out of it and ...demand the best !!!


Sure ... that will happen within 5 minutes of using it. Hopefully she will be too polite to tell you ;) Ask her what she needs the laptop for. This is critical info.
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Re: SHOULD I BUY A LAPTOP IN UK OR CYPRUS

Postby miltiades » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:30 am

Sotos wrote:
She will not be using it for long, she will grow out of it and ...demand the best !!!


Sure ... that will happen within 5 minutes of using it. Hopefully she will be too polite to tell you ;) Ask her what she needs the laptop for. This is critical info.

School work I presume Sotos, she does not yet use emails or other work with intricate analysis etc.

She is a book reader more than anything, in fact whenever Im in Cyprus I take her to an exorbitantly priced bookshop in Limassol, near Jumbo. The prices are a daylight robbery but what isn't now a days in Cyprus !!
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Re: SHOULD I BUY A LAPTOP IN UK OR CYPRUS

Postby Get Real! » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:37 pm

That machine is more than enough for an 11 year old… in fact it’s more than enough for my needs too; although I would format it and install Windows 7 instead of 8.

The only downside of this hardware will probably be the quality of sound so avid music listeners may be disappointed with the sound chip.
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Re: SHOULD I BUY A LAPTOP IN UK OR CYPRUS

Postby Sotos » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:58 pm

Get Real! wrote:That machine is more than enough for an 11 year old… in fact it’s more than enough for my needs too; although I would format it and install Windows 7 instead of 8.

The only downside of this hardware will probably be the quality of sound so avid music listeners may be disappointed with the sound chip.


In what way are the needs of an 11 year old less that the needs of the average computer user? Personally I wouldn't buy anything less than i3 even for casual use. I would also install Win 7, but I would do that after replacing that standard 5400rpm HDD with an SSD. Then it would be good enough for regular every day operation... otherwise it would feel like its 2004... without me being 10 years younger!
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Re: SHOULD I BUY A LAPTOP IN UK OR CYPRUS

Postby Get Real! » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:17 pm

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:That machine is more than enough for an 11 year old… in fact it’s more than enough for my needs too; although I would format it and install Windows 7 instead of 8.

The only downside of this hardware will probably be the quality of sound so avid music listeners may be disappointed with the sound chip.


In what way are the needs of an 11 year old less that the needs of the average computer user? Personally I wouldn't buy anything less than i3 even for casual use. I would also install Win 7, but I would do that after replacing that standard 5400rpm HDD with an SSD. Then it would be good enough for regular every day operation... otherwise it would feel like its 2004... without me being 10 years younger!

Sotos, I can build any computer I want for myself at wholesale prices yet I don’t bother and use a 12 year old P4 @3.4ghz with 2 megs of ram and a 250gb odd HD running under XP!

There’s a newer/hotter W7 tower case next to me which I rarely turn on except when testing.

This XP setup operates faster than the latest technology hardware running under newer OSs like W7 or W8.

When I click on something it loads IMMEDIATELY without any delay whatsoever so I can get so much more done in a given day than under a newer machine.

A properly set up and well looked after XP P4 machine runs at lightning speed and that’s what makes them great.
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Re: SHOULD I BUY A LAPTOP IN UK OR CYPRUS

Postby miltiades » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:23 pm

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:That machine is more than enough for an 11 year old… in fact it’s more than enough for my needs too; although I would format it and install Windows 7 instead of 8.

The only downside of this hardware will probably be the quality of sound so avid music listeners may be disappointed with the sound chip.


In what way are the needs of an 11 year old less that the needs of the average computer user? Personally I wouldn't buy anything less than i3 even for casual use. I would also install Win 7, but I would do that after replacing that standard 5400rpm HDD with an SSD. Then it would be good enough for regular every day operation... otherwise it would feel like its 2004... without me being 10 years younger!

As I said earlier she already uses a tablet,or is it an ipad, not sure which one, so I will soon know what she thinks of this one.

Todays youngsters are naturally technologically advanced , born with computers ipads , mobiles etc, but they are still children.

My grandson is 6 years old, will be seven in March, when I asked what he wanted pappou to bring him he said "polla kokka " :lol:

As for my youngest blue eyed 5 year old she wants ... barby dolls AND Kokka !!

I cant wait to see them on Thursday, almost forgot my other third arrives on Saturday, I know what she wants :lol:
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Re: SHOULD I BUY A LAPTOP IN UK OR CYPRUS

Postby Sotos » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:46 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:That machine is more than enough for an 11 year old… in fact it’s more than enough for my needs too; although I would format it and install Windows 7 instead of 8.

The only downside of this hardware will probably be the quality of sound so avid music listeners may be disappointed with the sound chip.


In what way are the needs of an 11 year old less that the needs of the average computer user? Personally I wouldn't buy anything less than i3 even for casual use. I would also install Win 7, but I would do that after replacing that standard 5400rpm HDD with an SSD. Then it would be good enough for regular every day operation... otherwise it would feel like its 2004... without me being 10 years younger!

Sotos, I can build any computer I want for myself at wholesale prices yet I don’t bother and use a 12 year old P4 @3.4ghz with 2 megs of ram and a 250gb odd HD running under XP!

There’s a newer/hotter W7 tower case next to me which I rarely turn on except when testing.

This XP setup operates faster than the latest technology hardware running under newer OSs like W7 or W8.

When I click on something it loads IMMEDIATELY without any delay whatsoever so I can get so much more done in a given day than under a newer machine.

A properly set up and well looked after XP P4 machine runs at lightning speed and that’s what makes them great.


Run DOS on it, it will be even faster :lol: No application will load "IMMEDIATELY" from an old HDD... maybe notepad or the calculator ;) What you have is "OK" for basic things like Office and some web browsing (without too many tabs open) but anything even a bit more demanding would work very slow or not at all... even something basic these days like watching HD video is probably impossible on that computer!
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Re: SHOULD I BUY A LAPTOP IN UK OR CYPRUS

Postby Get Real! » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:59 pm

Sotos wrote:Run DOS on it, it will be even faster :lol: No application will load "IMMEDIATELY" from an old HDD... maybe notepad or the calculator ;) What you have is "OK" for basic things like Office and some web browsing (without too many tabs open) but anything even a bit more demanding would work very slow or not at all... even something basic these days like watching HD video is probably impossible on that computer!

Actually Office 2003 or 2007 apps fire up instantly and so do browsers. Google Earth takes a while and so does Malwarebytes. All videos work fine if you install the right version of Flash Player.

A computer’s productivity is all about hardware + OS combined as a set. For example the i7+Win8 combo or the i3+Win7 combo will give you less productivity than the P4+XP combo for most things.

And by that I mean that you’ll be in and out of Windows much faster and your apps will load up faster. Everything happens faster because the OS is less complex and therefore less demanding.

XP is around 20 years old so when it’s run on 10 year old hardware it's lightning fast. Makes technical sense... :wink:
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Re: SHOULD I BUY A LAPTOP IN UK OR CYPRUS

Postby Sotos » Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:55 pm

GR, DOS is even less demanding than XP, and a 486DX can run DOS really fast. Does this mean that 486DX+DOS is a good combo for 2015? If all you can afford is a 486DX then you should run it with DOS. If all you can afford is a P4 with 2Gigs of RAM then you stick to XP. But you are kidding yourself if you believe that i3+Win7 and especially an i7+Win8 (with sufficient RAM) are slower than your old P4 ;) Maybe what you tried was heavily bottlenecked somewhere ... like laptops with slow 5400rpm drives which take a long time to load an app (due to the slow hard drive) and then they don't even have enough RAM to keep the whole app in memory so they have to keep reading/writing to the slow HDD!! But get yourself an i5 CPU + 8 Gigs of RAM + a decent SSD + Win 7 (and maybe a dedicated video card depending on usage) and then you will find out what "instantly" means in this decade without spending too much money.
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