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[MR-from-NG]

In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpass Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery.[4] In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. The city fell—September 9, 1570 fell—20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted. Only women and boys who were captured to be sold as slaves were spared.

And you are bitching because some thief spend 3 days in jail? None of you should have been on our island to begin with. You are the cancer of Cyprus!

in life there is stupidity but you are an insult to stupid people. the thief who stole the old mans land in 63 and had been using it since accused the old man of stealing his bike. there was no bike and there no court case, and you can call an old man a thief. what kind bitch gave birth to you stupid excuse for a human. furque off.

Lordo, Sotos is the village idiot. And considering Cyprus is full of village idiots then we have reason to worry. I just watched the programme Erolz posted. In the village café they are discussing the murder of Arif and the elderly Greek man saying he was shot dead because he was about to cut the telephone wires to the police station. Look at the cunt, he sees the man walking in his own field and he decides Arif is on his own field and is about to cut the wires. No evidence, no proof, in his mind Arif was about to do that and to this day he is defending the murderer. Sotos has already in his pea sized brain has visions of the TC riding along in the village on a stolen bike. In his mind the Greeks are such honourable people they would never accuse and arrest anybody of stealing a bike unless they actually stole it.

So Lordo, you said in a previous post that there were many decent Greeks. I so wish you would point them out to me when you see or hear from them.

[Sotos]

You are Turkish criminals repeating Turkish propaganda. A saying attributed to Stalin says: "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic". This is a propaganda tactic well known by the Turks. They will kill 1000s, 10s of thousands or even millions of innocent native people and then they will make up whole stories about some individuals or a small number of their own casualties trying to present themselves as the victims... just so they will create an excuse to cause more suffering to their victims! The Turks are the cancer of Cyprus!

[MR-from-NG]

You are Turkish criminals repeating Turkish propaganda. A saying attributed to Stalin says: "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic". This is a propaganda tactic well known by the Turks. They will kill 1000s, 10s of thousands or even millions of innocent native people and then they will make up whole stories about some individuals or a small number of their own casualties trying to present themselves as the victims... just so they will create an excuse to cause more suffering to their victims! The Turks are the cancer of Cyprus!

TC's may be the cancer of Cyprus but you my pea-brained village idiot are the worst specimen of a human being. You are a disgusting individual and if the rest of Greeks in the south are anything like you then I pray there is never a solution. I detest mainland Turks and pray for the day they are evicted from the island. By the same token though, if getting rid of the Turks mean sharing my space with cunts like you then I'm happy for them to stay and multiply in their thousands, hundreds of thousands in fact.

[Nikitas]

Like I said, the man was a mystery, neither the Turks nor the Junta understood why they opposed him, what is undeniable is that they both saw him as an obstacle to their plans. According to you the plan was Enosis for the Junta, so the inescapable conclusion is that Makarios was an obstacle to Enosis.

As for the 1967-1974 situation, I know of the situation around Peristerona. Between 1963 and 1967 when the Peristerona TCs left, GCs from surrounding villages cultivated their land. After 1967 the TCs either repossessed the land or got rent for it. I know because several relatives were involved in these dealings. I am not claiming there was anything honorable in this, but there was nothing violent either. When the TCs returned it was understood that rents were due and they were paid.

[Oceanside50]

Like I said, the man was a mystery, neither the Turks nor the Junta understood why they opposed him, what is undeniable is that they both saw him as an obstacle to their plans. According to you the plan was Enosis for the Junta, so the inescapable conclusion is that Makarios was an obstacle to Enosis.

As for the 1967-1974 situation, I know of the situation around Peristerona. Between 1963 and 1967 when the Peristerona TCs left, GCs from surrounding villages cultivated their land. After 1967 the TCs either repossessed the land or got rent for it. I know because several relatives were involved in these dealings. I am not claiming there was anything honorable in this, but there was nothing violent either. When the TCs returned it was understood that rents were due and they were paid.

The tide was turning to reconciliation in Cyprus, after the events of 63 and 67. The formation of EOKA B was meant to create chaos and pressure on Makarios. If you were a Tc and you heard EOKA B was bombing this and that police station, would you want to return out of the enclave. Whatever attempt Makarios had done to bring the Tc out of the enclaves, EOKA B made sure they were negated. Has anyone said this before?

[repulsewarrior]

well said in any case, Ocean. What is apparent is the fact that there existed three camps in this adversarial relationship.

...or to put it another way, the two sides are, those who see partition as viable, those who understand that Cyprus is indivisible because it is neither "Greek" or "Turkish".

[Nikitas]

Some of my former school mates were EOKA B members. I could talk to them about their choice in private and freely.

None of them even considered the Turkish angle. They were hell bent on getting rid of Makarios, some, not all were Enosis diehards, but Enosis was not the main reason for them being EOKA B".

I vividly remember an evening in Aheritou in 1973. "If there is partition the line will run right here" I had told one of these uber nationalists.

"The Turks have been spoken to" he said, "the point is to get rid of the priest and then everything will be all right". The line really does run right where we sat that evening. Yet they could not see the obvious.

Personally, I detected a sense of frustration in these people that had nothing to do with politics or nationalism. They felt suffocated by the status quo built around Makarios, that whole new ruling class that were running things and excluded others. The inercommunal situation never crossed their minds, they could not ceonceive that they were being used in that very game, they were in fact the useful idiots of the story.