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[Tim Drayton]

I have an issue with spelling the word used to roughly transliterate the name given by most Arabs to the bunch of inhuman thugs that like to call themselves 'Islamic' and a 'State'. Since this is an acronym, I believe that it should be capitalised throughout, i.e. DAESH, but I see it spelt as 'Daesh' in quite respectable sources such as Patrick Cockburn's articles in the Independent. Sadly, for as long as this pestilence continues to infest parts of the Middle East and threaten the whole of humanity (it will end, and the sooner the better), it is necessary to use this term in discussions, so can anybody advise me as to the best spelling? Thanks.

[miltiades]

I have an issue with spelling the word used to roughly transliterate the name given by most Arabs to the bunch of inhuman thugs that like to call themselves 'Islamic' and a 'State'. Since this is an acronym, I believe that it should be capitalised throughout, i.e. DAESH, but I see it spelt as 'Daesh' in quite respectable sources such as Patrick Cockburn's articles in the Independent. Sadly, for as long as this pestilence continues to infest parts of the Middle East and threaten the whole of humanity (it will end, and the sooner the better), it is necessary to use this term in discussions, so can anybody advise me as to the best spelling? Thanks.

The most appropriate name for the so called Daesh is BARBARIANS !

[GreekIslandGirl]

I'm not sure prescriptive elements count for much any more with the development of Globish. Still, you'd think some English National papers would try and be consistent.

Anyway, seems like "Daesh" isn't an acronym other than by some twisted coincidence. It was the name given to them by some US General.

Separation from their (IS) leanings with Islam isn't something I'm in favour of anyway as it lets off the hook all those religious leaders in the Islamic world who should take responsibility for these activities and offer resistance (not seen so far).

[Tim Drayton]

I'm not sure prescriptive elements count for much any more with the development of Globish. Still, you'd think some English National papers would try and be consistent.

Anyway, seems like "Daesh" isn't an acronym other than by some twisted coincidence. It was the name given to them by some US General.

Separation from their (IS) leanings with Islam isn't something I'm in favour of anyway as it lets off the hook all those religious leaders in the Islamic world who should take responsibility for these activities and offer resistance (not seen so far).

No, this is the name used by most Arabs for this gang, although it has a consonant in the middle that speakers of other languages find virtually impossible to pronounce, so it is a rough transliteration. It is an acronym in Arabic.

[GreekIslandGirl]

I'm not sure prescriptive elements count for much any more with the development of Globish. Still, you'd think some English National papers would try and be consistent.

Anyway, seems like "Daesh" isn't an acronym other than by some twisted coincidence. It was the name given to them by some US General.

Separation from their (IS) leanings with Islam isn't something I'm in favour of anyway as it lets off the hook all those religious leaders in the Islamic world who should take responsibility for these activities and offer resistance (not seen so far).

No, this is the name used by most Arabs for this gang, although it has a consonant in the middle that speakers of other languages find virtually impossible to pronounce, so it is a rough transliteration. It is an acronym in Arabic.

This article might go some way to describing this idea, but I don't have time to read it properly as I must dash off ... I'll check it later:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/d ... rands-isis

[Tim Drayton]

I'm not sure prescriptive elements count for much any more with the development of Globish. Still, you'd think some English National papers would try and be consistent.

Anyway, seems like "Daesh" isn't an acronym other than by some twisted coincidence. It was the name given to them by some US General.

Separation from their (IS) leanings with Islam isn't something I'm in favour of anyway as it lets off the hook all those religious leaders in the Islamic world who should take responsibility for these activities and offer resistance (not seen so far).

No, this is the name used by most Arabs for this gang, although it has a consonant in the middle that speakers of other languages find virtually impossible to pronounce, so it is a rough transliteration. It is an acronym in Arabic.

This article might go some way to describing this idea, but I don't have time to read it properly as I must dash off ... I'll check it later:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/d ... rands-isis

Thanks. From that article:

Daesh is also an acronym for an Arabic variation of the group’s name: al-Dawla al-Islamyia fil Iraq wa’al Sham. Most of the middle east and many Muslims abroad use Daesh, saying that although the jihadists have declared the nebulous region they control a caliphate, they neither adhere to Islam nor control a real state. Islamic clerics in particular have taken issue with the terms that include “Islamic State”. A group of British imams has suggested to prime minister David Cameron that he call the group “the Un-Islamic State”.

The US general in question didn't coin the term, but suggested that we in the West should also adopt it, and I agree.

[Get Real!]

Methinks someone’s got a bizarre FETEASH!

[GreekIslandGirl]

I'm not sure prescriptive elements count for much any more with the development of Globish. Still, you'd think some English National papers would try and be consistent.

Anyway, seems like "Daesh" isn't an acronym other than by some twisted coincidence. It was the name given to them by some US General.

Separation from their (IS) leanings with Islam isn't something I'm in favour of anyway as it lets off the hook all those religious leaders in the Islamic world who should take responsibility for these activities and offer resistance (not seen so far).

No, this is the name used by most Arabs for this gang, although it has a consonant in the middle that speakers of other languages find virtually impossible to pronounce, so it is a rough transliteration. It is an acronym in Arabic.

This article might go some way to describing this idea, but I don't have time to read it properly as I must dash off ... I'll check it later:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/d ... rands-isis

Thanks. From that article:

Daesh is also an acronym for an Arabic variation of the group’s name: al-Dawla al-Islamyia fil Iraq wa’al Sham. Most of the middle east and many Muslims abroad use Daesh, saying that although the jihadists have declared the nebulous region they control a caliphate, they neither adhere to Islam nor control a real state. Islamic clerics in particular have taken issue with the terms that include “Islamic State”. A group of British imams has suggested to prime minister David Cameron that he call the group “the Un-Islamic State”.

The US general in question didn't coin the term, but suggested that we in the West should also adopt it, and I agree.

Sorry, Tim. Cannot see how "DAESH" is an acronym for that name - It's ADAIFIWS, or at best, without the small words, it's DIIS .... which I prefer!

Anyway, I also cannot see how DAESH distances these cutthroats from Islam, as a suggested reason for its use, since "Islamyia" is part of that Arabic phrase it's supposed to signify.

[Garavnoss]

Regardless of what the Yanks may say... the correct spelling is IS.

[miltiades]

Regardless of what the Yanks may say... the correct spelling is IS.

The correct spelling for your name is a " Disgusting cunt " Now fuck off you prick !