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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:06 am

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SO they've been lying about the 'Genocide Numbers' then...? :shock:

Who knew? Well, everybody apart from Bordo and RH apparently... :lol:



In the situation the HAMAS Heath Authority find themselves I am amazed they are able to maintain any records at all!. I would say the guy you posted got his info from here and then gave it the ZIONIST touch up.

I have read this before and I thought I had posted it ..... maybe not, my error. But the Zionist version you posted based on this would suit you ...... the Zionist version is deliberately inaccurate, gives very few sources of its own it just runs down the GAZA Health Ministry ..... and then the plonker tells you his sponsor is a ZIONIST. Well in that case it must be accurate? Typical of you, you just nit pick the story, look for a weak point, add you interpretation, and exploit it!

Gaza's death toll now exceeds 30,000. Here's why it's an incomplete count. FEBRUARY 29, 20245:18 AM ET

Gaza's health ministry says 70% of those killed in the territory are women and children. Its most recent breakdown of casualties recorded in hospitals shows women and children make up 58% of those deaths. Al-Qudra could not explain the discrepancy. Recently, Al Jazeera obtained and published a list of thousands of names of Palestinian children in Gaza killed in the war.

In past wars with Israel, the Gaza health ministry's death tolls were mostly in line with counts by the United Nations and Israel, though there have been discrepancies in the past with Israel on the numbers of civilians vs. militants killed.
An analysis published in the Lancet medical journal in December found that Gaza's health ministry has "historically reported accurate mortality data," with discrepancies between 1% and roughly 3% when compared with U.N. analysis of deaths in previous conflicts. The study found "no evidence of inflated rates" in the current war and noted that difficulties in obtaining accurate death counts "should not be interpreted as intentionally misreported data."

Try reading the whole article ..........

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/29/1234159514/gaza-death-toll-30000-palestinians-israel-hamas-war#:~:text=The%20official%20number%20now%20stands,the%20most%20reliable%20one%20available.

They are actually correct in Hamas not giving the actual figure as they are unable to establish how many bodies are under the rubble. The death lists given out are all checked with ID numbers and names so they are accurate. But the Zionists here are trying desperately to discredit Hamas when Hamas figures in past casualties were more accurate than Zionists figures.

There propaganda machine is working overdrive forcing the western media to always say the Hamas released figures and the western media obliges but they never say Israeli figures, they give those as facts.

The one most laughable if only it was not so serious was the Zionist figure of 1400 killed by Hamas and then reducing it to 1200 claiming 200 they counted were Hamas fighters but they were so badly burnt that they thought the bodies were Israeli. Clearly there was Israeli people burnt too and burnt by the same people in the same way to be mixed up. It was IDF with their hellfire missiles and Regev did not even realise he was actually giving information on Israelis IDF killed.

What was even more laughable while Hamas was giving exact figure to a single digit, Zionists figures were being counted in 100s.
Israel’s military received orders to shell Israeli homes and even their own bases as they were overwhelmed by Hamas fighters on October 7, according to a recently published investigative report by Max Blumental, the editor-in-chief of The Grayzone, an independent news website.

Israel’s military received orders to shell Israeli homes and even their own bases as they were overwhelmed by Hamas militants on October 7.

“How many Israeli citizens said to have been “burned alive” were actually killed by friendly fire?”

https://middleeastobserver.org/2023/10/29/new-evidence-that-idf-shelled-israeli-citizens-on-oct-7-killing-over-a-hundred/
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:53 am



....drones.

all the region's airspace is closed,
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:09 am



...like it or not, worth repeating.

(...'we' expect so much more from "Them", these of "Them" who claim to be closer to God)

...and yet i have to ask myself, Hamas and the "Jews" how different can they be; both in affect anti-Semite.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:44 am

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...like it or not, worth repeating.

(...'we' expect so much more from "Them", these of "Them" who claim to be closer to God)

...and yet i have to ask myself, Hamas and the "Jews" how different can they be; both in affect anti-Semite.

And both are Semite too.

This clip is more bullshit RW. They claimed it and when they went into it they found nothing. Yeah they planted a laptop there and a few weapons and claimed it was headquarters. Bullshit maaaaan

What is shameful is believing that what Israel was doing in the north and centre and what they want to do to Rafah is all about wiping out Hamas and yet in the north and centre Hamas is still there and fighting. It was bullshit all along for the mushrooms. The intention was to drive Palestinians out of Gaza and into Egypt. Unfortunately for them Egypt did not oblige,
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:09 am

What is interesting is what Trump is saying now as if he would have done anything different to Biden.
Attendees of a Donald Trump campaign rally chanted “Genocide Joe” at the former president on Saturday evening, using a phrase associated with pro-Palestinian activists about Biden. Trump was speaking at a rally in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania on Saturday evening when the chanting began.
“Genocide Joe,” the crowd shouted, and Mr Trump paused his speech. He turned around to survey the crowd.
“They’re not wrong,” Trump said as he turned back to the microphone. “They’re not wrong. He’s done everything wrong.”
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:42 am

Interesting.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:46 am

This is worth a read.

Ilan Pappe: Israel Is the Last Remaining, Active Settler-Colonialist Project


https://inthesetimes.com/article/ilan-pappe-Bernie-Sanders-Noam-Chomsky-BDS-Israel-Palestine
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:04 pm

This is very important. Shows Israeli information as for what it is propaganda.

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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:47 pm

Here is the film they are talking about.

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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:28 pm

Lordo wrote:This is very important. Shows Israeli information as for what it is propaganda.



That was interesting, factual and totally lacked all the accusations and aggression normally associated with 'exposure' type interviews.

Lordo ...... if you learned to talk like these two, you could go far. :wink:
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