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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:16 pm

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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:40 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:https://theatlasnews.co/conflict/2023/11/11/u-s-aircraft-crash-eastern-mediterranean-sea/

...news.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/5-u-s-special-operations-troops-killed-in-helicopter-crash-after-mishap-occurred-during-routine-mission/ar-AA1jRkII?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=5532c1ee4c8e439ea89fcdfb3d6f6a9f&ei=17

5 U.S. Special Operations Troops Killed in Helicopter Crash After 'Mishap' Occurred During 'Routine Mission'
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:22 am

Interesting history lesson. The story of throwing people off the roof put into context.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=854106972918336
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:07 am

It's all about history lessons tonight.

The Hannibal Directive is a procedure used by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) to prevent the capture of Israeli soldiers by enemy forces. It was introduced in 1986, after a number of abductions of IDF soldiers in Lebanon. The directive authorized attempts to stop abductors “at any cost”, even if it put captured Israeli soldiers at risk. The procedure is controversial and has been accused of violating international law and human rights.


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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:30 pm

Its that time of day. A little bit of history.

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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:02 pm

What is really interesting is the fact that Azrael and her supporters justify killing of innocent civilians by the IDF using the 7th October attack as an excuse but refuse to see if there was a reason why Hamas attacked on the 7th of October. As the UN said, it did not happen in a vacuum.

But here is the thing, Hamas is accused of attacking innocent civilians and beheading children. No proof as yet as to who killed the civilians and how. It is also known that every kibbutz in Azrael has an attachment of soldiers stationed near it to defend the civilians. Here is another thing, about 1000 Hamas fighters managed to overpower 16,000 Azraeli soldiers, kill some and capture some as hostages. They also captured civilian hostages.

So far there is only two civilians who gave evidence. One woman explained how they were looked after when they were captive and another explained her horror of seeing IDF tanks firing into houses where there were Hamas fighters knowing that there were Azraeli civilians including children in them.

I had heard of this happening but I did not realise it was a government policy to kill Azraeli civilians and soldiers rather than allow them to be taken alive called Hannibal Directive.

The question comes up, why do Azraelis estimate their dead? Surely Hamas only had rifles and hand grenades as weapons, so perhaps they are having difficulty figuring the number from the fact that tanks shells obliterates the bodies into small pieces.

Surely a ceasefire at this point would serve many things.
1. It would stop the killings
2. It would allow people to be rescued if alive and recovered if dead from under the rubble.
3. An investigation can be held as to how many as well as how the Azraeli civilians were killed.

Also notice Azrael is not talking about a settlement, they want to continue with what they have been doing blockading Gaza and anytime they choose they can go in and kill innocent civilians claiming they are being used as human shields.

Surely if civilians are being used as human shields, those who are shooting at them are as guilty of a war crime as those who are holding them. While holding innocent civilians as human shields is a war crime, shooting at those shields is not considered to not be a war crime. The idea that so long as they warn the civilians to get out, it is not a war crime to kill them would be laughable if it was not so serious. Add to that the announcement made by Azrael Defense minister that after 24 hours any civilians remain in the north will be considered Hamas supporters and hence legitimate target. They are making up the International Law as they are going along.

May all the Zionists and their supporters rot in hell.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:06 pm

Lordo wrote:Its that time of day. A little bit of history.



Maybe Rees-Mogg should have made himself aware of the other side of the story regarding 7th Oct before he just regurgitated the Israel Military’s rather distorted and light on facts/evidence, version of events? Barnaby Raine obviously was aware! An interesting exchange none the less!

Rees-Mogg reflects the usual approach of all those that support Israel ..... they always start their timeline at a convenient point to avoid ‘history’ that sheds a different light on this conflict and avoid the facts.

The answer to “Do you condemn the HAMAS attack?" ...... should be “YES ..... but I can understand why they did it!” Raine’s response should have then been “Do YOU condemn the Israeli response?” But we know what the answer will be, as it always is “Israel has the right to self defence!” but why does this not apply to the Palestinians as it is THEY that are defending themselves against people who have invaded their homelands for over 70 years! The problem I see is that Israel does the very same thing and it’s OK ..... I believe they call it ‘pre-emptive defence’ ...... and that seems to wholly justify Israel’s abuses and war crimes. :roll:

Maybe Rees-Mogg should have read through this before constantly repeating IDF/Netanyahu propaganda?

October 7 testimonies reveal Israel’s military ‘shelling’ Israeli citizens with tanks, missiles. Max Blumenthal. The Grey Zone .... 27th Oct 23

Israel’s military received orders to shell Israeli homes and even their own bases as they were overwhelmed by Hamas militants on October 7. How many Israeli citizens said to have been “burned alive” were actually killed by friendly fire?

Several new testimonies by Israeli witnesses to the October 7 Hamas surprise attack on southern Israel adds to growing evidence that the Israeli military killed its own citizens as they fought to neutralize Palestinian gunmen.

Tuval Escapa, a member of the security team for Kibbutz Be’eri, set up a hotline to coordinate between kibbutz residents and the Israeli army. He told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that as desperation began to set in, “the commanders in the field made difficult decisions – including shelling houses on their occupants in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages.”

A separate report published in Haaretz noted that the Israeli military was “compelled to request an aerial strike” against its own facility inside the Erez Crossing to Gaza “in order to repulse the terrorists” who had seized control. That base was filled with Israeli Civil Administration officers and soldiers at the time.

Full article, much more detail and many examples ........

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:22 am

They are scraping the barrel with tis one RW. A command centre but it has nothing. Few rifles on the floor. This is pure Azraeli propaganda preparing us for flattening of the hospitals.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Kikapu » Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:07 am

Lordo wrote:They are scraping the barrel with tis one RW. A command centre but it has nothing. Few rifles on the floor. This is pure Azraeli propaganda preparing us for flattening of the hospitals.


Total Zionist propaganda, complicit by CNN. The moment CNN stated from the beginning that this video was not controlled by the Zionist murderers, the propaganda started from that moment. The video has several cuts, therefore, there are no connections to the solar panels on the roof of the hospital, to the wires going into the ground, the tunnels to the so called “Hamas command center” :lol: , which was a hole in the wall that was smaller than my bathroom with couple of rusted weapons. A chair with some rope was suggested a hostage being kept there where there were no other items to be seen. A motorcycle with a bullet hole that may have been used on October 7th. :lol: Really? Where is the ramp that the motorcycle drove into the tunnels, or did the Hamas member carry it on his back down the steps from the road to the tunnel? So much bullshit to justify for the Zionist Nazis to murder innocent Palestinians, which is backed by 80+ of the Israelis, which they now too have blood on their hands and not just the Israeli Nazi soldiers committing war crimes, hence the fact their faces are blurred out by ALL the MSM so for them not to face war crimes prosecutions when the time comes, or to be targeted for avenge/revenge killings by those having their babies murdered by these Zionist Nazi thugs. :evil:

Warrior, thanks for exposing these propaganda videos, even if you did not meant to! :roll:
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