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[Tim Drayton]

Tim. sorry to tell you mate,[as I am aware that you have been called an "Honourable Man"] you know as much about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the "Noble Qur'an" as my arse knows about "Snipe Shooting".

I disagree. I think a know a reasonable bit about it, although I am far from an expert, and the above comment betrays total intellectual bankruptcy. I might just as well reply: "You, too, know as much about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the "Noble Qur'an" as my arse knows about "Snipe Shooting"." What does the comment prove? Nothing. And if you think that adding a smiley after it somehow lends truth to it, you understand nothing about intellectual argument.

How about addressing the issues.

1. You come here making propaganda for the Daesh bandits, claiming to support them because you are a Muslim and you somehow see them as implementing true Islam.
2. You have now been exposed twice by your own incompetence telling ludicrous lies whose aim is to defame another person.
3. The above is forbidden according to the Koran.
4. Therefore there is a contradiction between 2 and 3 above which means that your claim in 1 is shown to be false.

Therefore you are a hypocrite. Either address the issues or do not bother at all, and please don't waste my time with childish insults the like of which I last traded in the infants' school playground. Try using adult arguments.

[Garavnoss]

Tim. sorry to tell you mate,[as I am aware that you have been called an "Honourable Man"] you know as much about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the "Noble Qur'an" as my arse knows about "Snipe Shooting".

I disagree. I think a know a reasonable bit about it, although I am far from an expert, and the above comment betrays total intellectual bankruptcy. I might just as well reply: "You, too, know as much about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the "Noble Qur'an" as my arse knows about "Snipe Shooting"." What does the comment prove? Nothing. And if you think that adding a smiley after it somehow lends truth to it, you understand nothing about intellectual argument.

How about addressing the issues.

1. You come here making propaganda for the Daesh bandits, claiming to support them because you are a Muslim and you somehow see them as implementing true Islam.
2. You have now been exposed twice by your own incompetence telling ludicrous lies whose aim is to defame another person.
3. The above is forbidden according to the Koran.
4. Therefore there is a contradiction between 2 and 3 above which means that your claim in 1 is shown to be false.

Therefore you are a hypocrite. Either address the issues or do not bother at all, and please don't waste my time with childish insults the like of which I last traded in the infants' school playground. Try using adult arguments.

I suggest you read my posts before drawing conclusions, it would appear that you have been influenced by "JJ LikassAkis".

[Tim Drayton]

Tim. sorry to tell you mate,[as I am aware that you have been called an "Honourable Man"] you know as much about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the "Noble Qur'an" as my arse knows about "Snipe Shooting".

I disagree. I think a know a reasonable bit about it, although I am far from an expert, and the above comment betrays total intellectual bankruptcy. I might just as well reply: "You, too, know as much about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the "Noble Qur'an" as my arse knows about "Snipe Shooting"." What does the comment prove? Nothing. And if you think that adding a smiley after it somehow lends truth to it, you understand nothing about intellectual argument.

How about addressing the issues.

1. You come here making propaganda for the Daesh bandits, claiming to support them because you are a Muslim and you somehow see them as implementing true Islam.
2. You have now been exposed twice by your own incompetence telling ludicrous lies whose aim is to defame another person.
3. The above is forbidden according to the Koran.
4. Therefore there is a contradiction between 2 and 3 above which means that your claim in 1 is shown to be false.

Therefore you are a hypocrite. Either address the issues or do not bother at all, and please don't waste my time with childish insults the like of which I last traded in the infants' school playground. Try using adult arguments.

I suggest you read my posts before drawing conclusions, it would appear that you have been influenced by "JJ LikassAkis".

I used to follow your posts as Eliko, Schnauzer et. al. and had quite a lot of respect for that person. I don't know what has happened, but it makes me sad.

[Tim Drayton]

Indeed, I am being far more charitable in my interpretation of Islam than the following author.

Muslims lie when it is in their interest to do so and “Allah” will not hold them accountable for lying when it is beneficial to the cause of Islam. They can lie without any guilt or fear of accountability or retribution. A lie in the defense of Islam is approved even applauded in their “holy” books.

Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection. Muslims will tell you that concealment of a truth is not an abandonment of that truth if it benefits Islam.

Mohammed gave permission for a follower to lie in order to kill a Jewish poet who had offended Mohammed. I could provide many examples of permissible lying from the Koran and Hadith and will do so when my critics accuse me of hatred and bigotry because of this column. My motives are not important but the truth is. However, many unprincipled people do not consider truth important. It is political correctness that sits on the throne to be worshiped.

Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam. They have permission to lie. Yes, Christians have also lied but never are they given permission to lie. However, a Muslim has no guilt since the Koran and Hadith permit his deception.

http://muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the- ... -bri.shtml

A simple question from one who supposedly knows as much about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the Noble Qur'an as Garavnoss’s arse knows about "Snipe Shooting", the clear implication being that the latter (who made this infantile comment) does indeed known about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the Noble Qur'an, is the proposition “a Muslim has no guilt since the Koran and Hadith permit his deception” true or false from within the tenets of Islam and interpretation of the Noble Qur'an? Please back up your answer with quotes from the Koran and Hadith. Put up or shut up. Show us how much you know about Islam and how much right you have to come here and call yourself a devout Muslim.

[Garavnoss]

Indeed, I am being far more charitable in my interpretation of Islam than the following author.

Muslims lie when it is in their interest to do so and “Allah” will not hold them accountable for lying when it is beneficial to the cause of Islam. They can lie without any guilt or fear of accountability or retribution. A lie in the defense of Islam is approved even applauded in their “holy” books.

Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection. Muslims will tell you that concealment of a truth is not an abandonment of that truth if it benefits Islam.

Mohammed gave permission for a follower to lie in order to kill a Jewish poet who had offended Mohammed. I could provide many examples of permissible lying from the Koran and Hadith and will do so when my critics accuse me of hatred and bigotry because of this column. My motives are not important but the truth is. However, many unprincipled people do not consider truth important. It is political correctness that sits on the throne to be worshiped.

Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam. They have permission to lie. Yes, Christians have also lied but never are they given permission to lie. However, a Muslim has no guilt since the Koran and Hadith permit his deception.

http://muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the- ... -bri.shtml

A simple question from one who supposedly knows as much about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the Noble Qur'an as Garavnoss’s arse knows about "Snipe Shooting", the clear implication being that the latter (who made this infantile comment) does indeed known about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the Noble Qur'an, is the proposition “a Muslim has no guilt since the Koran and Hadith permit his deception” true or false from within the tenets of Islam and interpretation of the Noble Qur'an? Please back up your answer with quotes from the Koran and Hadith. Put up or shut up. Show us how much you know about Islam and how much right you have to come here and call yourself a devout Muslim.

Once again I would urge you to read my posts.

[Tim Drayton]

Indeed, I am being far more charitable in my interpretation of Islam than the following author.

Muslims lie when it is in their interest to do so and “Allah” will not hold them accountable for lying when it is beneficial to the cause of Islam. They can lie without any guilt or fear of accountability or retribution. A lie in the defense of Islam is approved even applauded in their “holy” books.

Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection. Muslims will tell you that concealment of a truth is not an abandonment of that truth if it benefits Islam.

Mohammed gave permission for a follower to lie in order to kill a Jewish poet who had offended Mohammed. I could provide many examples of permissible lying from the Koran and Hadith and will do so when my critics accuse me of hatred and bigotry because of this column. My motives are not important but the truth is. However, many unprincipled people do not consider truth important. It is political correctness that sits on the throne to be worshiped.

Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam. They have permission to lie. Yes, Christians have also lied but never are they given permission to lie. However, a Muslim has no guilt since the Koran and Hadith permit his deception.

http://muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the- ... -bri.shtml

A simple question from one who supposedly knows as much about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the Noble Qur'an as Garavnoss’s arse knows about "Snipe Shooting", the clear implication being that the latter (who made this infantile comment) does indeed known about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the Noble Qur'an, is the proposition “a Muslim has no guilt since the Koran and Hadith permit his deception” true or false from within the tenets of Islam and interpretation of the Noble Qur'an? Please back up your answer with quotes from the Koran and Hadith. Put up or shut up. Show us how much you know about Islam and how much right you have to come here and call yourself a devout Muslim.

Once again I would urge you to read my posts.

I do. They suggest to me a very shaky knowledge of Islam. I get the feeling that, for some reason better known to you, you are just posing as a Muslim, and are left floundering when challenged.

[Garavnoss]

Once again I would urge you to read my posts

[Tim Drayton]

Once again I would urge you to read my posts

All you can do is repeat yourself. A sure sign of intellectual bankruptcy. No wonder because you support blind belief in blind dogma backed up with nothing else but open intimidation of those who think differently, in the case Islam as practised by Daesh.

[miltiades]

Once again I would urge you to read my posts

All you can do is repeat yourself. A sure sign of intellectual bankruptcy. No wonder because you support blind belief in blind dogma backed up with nothing else but open intimidation of those who think differently, in the case Islam as practised by Daesh.

Tim, with all due respect, you are wasting your time with this degenerate pervert.
I wonder why, you may also ponder, Islam has not penetrated in the civilized world but has remain well within third world nations with the highest illiteracy rates. Why is it that no European nation, no developed nation has embraced this sect if indeed it is a sect and not some virus !

[Lordo]

Once again I would urge you to read my posts

All you can do is repeat yourself. A sure sign of intellectual bankruptcy. No wonder because you support blind belief in blind dogma backed up with nothing else but open intimidation of those who think differently, in the case Islam as practised by Daesh.

Tim, with all due respect, you are wasting your time with this degenerate pervert.
I wonder why, you may also ponder, Islam has not penetrated in the civilized world but has remain well within third world nations with the highest illiteracy rates. Why is it that no European nation, no developed nation has embraced this sect if indeed it is a sect and not some virus !

in order to progress to the chrsitian world the muslims had to:

1. buy keys to heaven
2. believe that jesus was a child of a virgin woman
3. god was his father
5, feed 5000 with two fish. must have been couple of whales he hooked.
6. turned water into wine
7. died and came back to life


naturally they did not have the higher capacity to comprehend such ideas and remained believing in a normal human being.

i wonder if the old fool knows what giordano bruno did and what the church did to him. you stupid old fool. the church has terrified you simpletons in believing some bastard child was born was son of god and you swallowed it like good boy.

now say 3 hail marys and ask for forgiveness banaiyami dje gagon basdin kellesu.

i am convinced, i will convert to christianity, how much do they pay conversion and is there a limit to how many times you can convert. do the children get the same rate.