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REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Poll ended at Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:58 pm

A. GENUINE REFUGEES
2
50%
B. ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS
2
50%
 
Total votes : 4

Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby miltiades » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:14 am

The fact remains that the vast majority of people in Europe and on the Cyprus Forum recognize the dire intricacies of a human tragedy that has only just begun. Many on the CY forum will cast their vote today if only to shut you up.

Humans, the vast majority that is, are inexorably appalled, my self included, by the sight of children in desperate conditions such as witnessed on out tv screens of late.

Be it refugees or economic migrants they are primarily humans in distress trying to better their lives and that of their children.

Europe offers this hope.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Garavnoss » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:49 am

miltiades wrote:The fact remains that the vast majority of people in Europe and on the Cyprus Forum recognize the dire intricacies of a human tragedy that has only just begun. Many on the CY forum will cast their vote today if only to shut you up.

Humans, the vast majority that is, are inexorably appalled, my self included, by the sight of children in desperate conditions such as witnessed on out tv screens of late.

Be it refugees or economic migrants they are primarily humans in distress trying to better their lives and that of their children.

Europe offers this hope.


I am sure that everybody recognizes the desperation which attends the plight of those unfortunates who have been forced to flee their homelands as a result of the conflicts taking place within them.

There is little point in trying to categorize the intentions of those who flee, nor is there any point in trying to determine what their motives for seeking refuge is.

What IS relevant, is the cause of their distress and who is responsible for it.

Political and Military pressures [by whosoever] created the problems and the REAL subject of debate should be directed towards the discovery of WHO should bear the responsibility for the upheavals rather than analysing the aftermath of them.

This "Poll" is of no consequence since it will resolve NOTHING, the affected unfortunates do not need classification, they need a roof over their heads and the means to sustain their lives in a safe environment [for themselves and their families/children] and whether or not they seek refuge in Cyprus, the UK or any other Western society, their plight remains the same [at present] and will probably deteriorate unless some "Good Sense" prevails in the "Halls of Power" [wherever they may be].

Currently, Europe and Western societies are obliged [and quite rightly so] to accommodate these unfortunate people, rightly so in MY opinion since I contend that the Western powers [particularly America, UK, Israel and others] are the instigators of ALL the conflicts.

Britain's PM is currently hell-bent on unleashing MORE bombing attacks on Syria, nice one, THAT should do the trick eh ?. 8)
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby miltiades » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:47 am

The West, America and Britain in particular, ought to use all in their means to eliminate the savages going by the name of Isis. Some rather naive and rather stupid people are advocating ...talks with these barbarians, they, Isis are the culprits.

The West must also realize that no other form of governace would be compatible with the culture of these nations currently in turmoil.

A strong dictator will emerge sooner rather than later. Egypt has realized that only the strong arm of their army would keep the nation at peace with it self.

These utter nonsense of religious bigotry is responsible for much of the killings going on in Syria, Irag and elsewhere.

For the sake of the young, the children especially, a new Arab awakening should occur.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Garavnoss » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:09 am

miltiades wrote:The West, America and Britain in particular, ought to use all in their means to eliminate the savages going by the name of Isis. Some rather naive and rather stupid people are advocating ...talks with these barbarians, they, Isis are the culprits.

The West must also realize that no other form of governace would be compatible with the culture of these nations currently in turmoil.

A strong dictator will emerge sooner rather than later. Egypt has realized that only the strong arm of their army would keep the nation at peace with it self.

These utter nonsense of religious bigotry is responsible for much of the killings going on in Syria, Irag and elsewhere.

For the sake of the young, the children especially, a new Arab awakening should occur.


I feel "Duty Bound" to inform you that your post is "Off Topic" and that you should devote your time [perhaps by sending P.M's] in order to encourage a few votes in order to preserve a modicum of credibility as the raiser of your ridiculous "Poll".

Alternatively, a little "Begging" might do the trick, it seems to have been effective on other occasions and I am sure you will shit your pants if the result remains as it now stands [2 votes after something approaching 2000 visits, producing a 50/50 result] :lol:

For God's sake, do not enter the realm of politics, you'd be bound to lose your deposit !. :lol: :lol:

Incidentally, you'd better get busy, time is running out. 8)
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Maximus » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:11 am

miltiades wrote:The fact remains that the vast majority of people in Europe and on the Cyprus Forum recognize the dire intricacies of a human tragedy that has only just begun. Many on the CY forum will cast their vote today if only to shut you up.

Humans, the vast majority that is, are inexorably appalled, my self included, by the sight of children in desperate conditions such as witnessed on out tv screens of late.

Be it refugees or economic migrants they are primarily humans in distress trying to better their lives and that of their children.

Europe offers this hope.


Milti,

You need to take a closer look. 60-70% of these refugees are single men !

These "refugees" are paying anywhere between 1-4000 euros to be smuggled in to the EU. The GDP per capital for Syria is about $5000. Where did they get the money from? Who is paying the human traffickers to traffic them all to the EU?
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby miltiades » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:45 am

Maximus wrote:
miltiades wrote:The fact remains that the vast majority of people in Europe and on the Cyprus Forum recognize the dire intricacies of a human tragedy that has only just begun. Many on the CY forum will cast their vote today if only to shut you up.

Humans, the vast majority that is, are inexorably appalled, my self included, by the sight of children in desperate conditions such as witnessed on out tv screens of late.

Be it refugees or economic migrants they are primarily humans in distress trying to better their lives and that of their children.

Europe offers this hope.


Milti,

You need to take a closer look. 60-70% of these refugees are single men !

These "refugees" are paying anywhere between 1-4000 euros to be smuggled in to the EU. The GDP per capital for Syria is about $5000. Where did they get the money from? Who is paying the human traffickers to traffic them all to the EU?

Europe WILL find out sooner rather than later!!
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Maximus » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:11 pm

miltiades wrote:
Maximus wrote:
miltiades wrote:The fact remains that the vast majority of people in Europe and on the Cyprus Forum recognize the dire intricacies of a human tragedy that has only just begun. Many on the CY forum will cast their vote today if only to shut you up.

Humans, the vast majority that is, are inexorably appalled, my self included, by the sight of children in desperate conditions such as witnessed on out tv screens of late.

Be it refugees or economic migrants they are primarily humans in distress trying to better their lives and that of their children.

Europe offers this hope.


Milti,

You need to take a closer look. 60-70% of these refugees are single men !

These "refugees" are paying anywhere between 1-4000 euros to be smuggled in to the EU. The GDP per capital for Syria is about $5000. Where did they get the money from? Who is paying the human traffickers to traffic them all to the EU?

Europe WILL find out sooner rather than later!!


Sure,

but what I dont understand is that these migrants cant afford this on paper. They are forcing their way through Europe, to be housed in a refugee camp at their preferred final destination instead of at their first point of safety. Then they will be processed and registered and either be granted permission to stay or they will be deported.

They are stressing themselves out and overwhelming the hosts countries for what? The problems will start shortly because I think they are under the impression that they are going to be given houses and other benefits and think they will automatically be allowed to stay because they got to wherever they wanted to go illegally without cooperating.

It's madness.

lets hope their tragedy does not create a tragedy for Europeans.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Lordo » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:48 pm

miltiades wrote:The fact remains that the vast majority of people in Europe and on the Cyprus Forum recognize the dire intricacies of a human tragedy that has only just begun. Many on the CY forum will cast their vote today if only to shut you up.

Humans, the vast majority that is, are inexorably appalled, my self included, by the sight of children in desperate conditions such as witnessed on out tv screens of late.

Be it refugees or economic migrants they are primarily humans in distress trying to better their lives and that of their children.

Europe offers this hope.

let me correct you here stupid old fool

these people are the ones their life we furqued up and continue to furque up and they need somewhere safe to survive without our drones and weapons firing on them. who the hell set up isil with weapons and trained them and who continues to buy their oil and sell them weapons you stupid stupid idiot.

are you really that removed from reality gavole.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Lordo » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:51 pm

Maximus wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Maximus wrote:
miltiades wrote:The fact remains that the vast majority of people in Europe and on the Cyprus Forum recognize the dire intricacies of a human tragedy that has only just begun. Many on the CY forum will cast their vote today if only to shut you up.

Humans, the vast majority that is, are inexorably appalled, my self included, by the sight of children in desperate conditions such as witnessed on out tv screens of late.

Be it refugees or economic migrants they are primarily humans in distress trying to better their lives and that of their children.

Europe offers this hope.


Milti,

You need to take a closer look. 60-70% of these refugees are single men !

These "refugees" are paying anywhere between 1-4000 euros to be smuggled in to the EU. The GDP per capital for Syria is about $5000. Where did they get the money from? Who is paying the human traffickers to traffic them all to the EU?

Europe WILL find out sooner rather than later!!


Sure,

but what I dont understand is that these migrants cant afford this on paper. They are forcing their way through Europe, to be housed in a refugee camp at their preferred final destination instead of at their first point of safety. Then they will be processed and registered and either be granted permission to stay or they will be deported.

They are stressing themselves out and overwhelming the hosts countries for what? The problems will start shortly because I think they are under the impression that they are going to be given houses and other benefits and think they will automatically be allowed to stay because they got to wherever they wanted to go illegally without cooperating.

It's madness.

lets hope their tragedy does not create a tragedy for Europeans.

let me help you understand. they are heading to places where the police will not put them in concentration camps, hit them on the head with stick and fire cs gas at them. democratic compassionate countries. once the war ends then they may return or they may decide to stay where they are.

does that make it clear. you stupid boy.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby miltiades » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:36 pm

Vordo wrote :" without OUR drones and weapons firing on them."

OUR Drones?? Since when have you considered your self as one of us :lol: :lol:
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