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[tsukoui]

21/11/16

The failure of the big idea...

Dear Comrades,

Why did the Soviet Union collapse? In fact there was a coup by the elite. The Russian people committed revolutionary suicide. Why?

At the time the United States was on the brink of financial collapse. It could of gone either way.

The main difference between the internal politics of the U.S.S.R. and the U.S.? Racism.

Russians are not "White", they are Slav.

They had nothing to do with the creation of "racism".

They may have prejudices. Prejudices are normal. But they did not divide the world into "White omnicients" and "Black labourers".

They did not force whole ethnicities in all their diversity together to create a rootless "Black race". By this logic, African's are not "Black" by the way.

Did the U.S.S.R. suffer from lack of diversity? Or did the "Blacks" of the U.S. abandon leftist politics in favour of the American Dream?

Mainstream hip hop is as right wing as anything the Republican party has ever produced, and it has reaped benefits for the hip hop oligarchs, whilst the masses live in poverty.

As Malcolm said "by any means necessary".

Was "State Capitalism", note not "Monopoly Capitalism", necessary?

Why was the cybernetic revolution abandoned in the 70s?

Who were the bureaucrats?

Why doesn't America grant "Blacks" their own state?

All these questions must be answered if we are to progress.

Thank you.

[Get Real!]

Good God… you didn’t send that right?

And you didn’t make any mention that you’re from Cyprus right?

[repulsewarrior]

...consider the life of Trotsky, talk about "black", and "white".

What is natural will be; for that Truth he died, rather quietly: and yet "Communists" asks why.

tsuk, look further than what is the polemics of those too lazy to read for themselves.

...you will find as i did, that Marx and Engels were not "Communists" in the Russian vain; not unlike Darwin they are Social-Scientists even less understood.

[Paphitis]

:shock: Good God… you didn’t send that right?

And you didn’t make any mention that you’re from Cyprus right?

I think that is a good thing!

Shhhh...don't give him any ideas!

[Paphitis]

BTW, there is no Communism in today's Russia.

[tsukoui]

...consider the life of Trotsky, talk about "black", and "white".

What is natural will be; for that Truth he died, rather quietly: and yet "Communists" asks why.

tsuk, look further than what is the polemics of those too lazy to read for themselves.

...you will find as i did, that Marx and Engels were not "Communists" in the Russian vain; not unlike Darwin they are Social-Scientists even less understood.

I am well aware that the world turns, as the yi jing says, good times are followed by bad times and what is bad must eventually become good... free market... democracy... oligarchs... and kings... the Soviets put the working class into positions of power and look what the barbarians did... but do we deny that structure and form have any bearing on how we behave?... social-scientists yes... I am interested in social technology. Thank you.

[Paphitis]

...consider the life of Trotsky, talk about "black", and "white".

What is natural will be; for that Truth he died, rather quietly: and yet "Communists" asks why.

tsuk, look further than what is the polemics of those too lazy to read for themselves.

...you will find as i did, that Marx and Engels were not "Communists" in the Russian vain; not unlike Darwin they are Social-Scientists even less understood.

I am well aware that the world turns, as the yi jing says, good times are followed by bad times and what is bad must eventually become good... free market... democracy... oligarchs... and kings... the Soviets put the working class into positions of power and look what the barbarians did... but do we deny that structure and form have any bearing on how we behave?... social-scientists yes... I am interested in social technology. Thank you.

Sure if you think working working for a few dollars is a position of power.

Wouldn't you prefer to be able to set up your own business, invent something, be an artist, or control your own destiny in some way? Wouldn't you prefer to be rewarding for the effort you put in? Do you really think working for some Communist Oligarchs to throw you a bone is better than your own freedom?

It's not about being very rich. Only 0.0001% are super rich. But you could be well off and content. And a lot of people work hard and get there. being well off is also a subjective thing. It has a different meaning for all of us. Some people could be content with a loving family, kids, health and a roof.

[tsukoui]

...consider the life of Trotsky, talk about "black", and "white".

What is natural will be; for that Truth he died, rather quietly: and yet "Communists" asks why.

tsuk, look further than what is the polemics of those too lazy to read for themselves.

...you will find as i did, that Marx and Engels were not "Communists" in the Russian vain; not unlike Darwin they are Social-Scientists even less understood.

I am well aware that the world turns, as the yi jing says, good times are followed by bad times and what is bad must eventually become good... free market... democracy... oligarchs... and kings... the Soviets put the working class into positions of power and look what the barbarians did... but do we deny that structure and form have any bearing on how we behave?... social-scientists yes... I am interested in social technology. Thank you.

Sure if you think working working for a few dollars is a position of power.

Wouldn't you prefer to be able to set up your own business, invent something, be an artist, or control your own destiny in some way? Wouldn't you prefer to be rewarding for the effort you put in? Do you really think working for some Communist Oligarchs to throw you a bone is better than your own freedom?

It's not about being very rich. Only 0.0001% are super rich. But you could be well off and content. And a lot of people work hard and get there. being well off is also a subjective thing. It has a different meaning for all of us. Some people could be content with a loving family, kids, health and a roof.

Life is full of games. Some games involve life and death. Is death full of games as well?

I am a humble servant. Why would I want an upside down world? There is a natural order in the world, i.e. hierarchy, but the positions change, as if a dance, some might call it algebra, others alchemy or combinatorics, I am looking for a king with whom to serve, I cannot accept that he is dead.

[Get Real!]

...consider the life of Trotsky, talk about "black", and "white".

What is natural will be; for that Truth he died, rather quietly: and yet "Communists" asks why.

tsuk, look further than what is the polemics of those too lazy to read for themselves.

...you will find as i did, that Marx and Engels were not "Communists" in the Russian vain; not unlike Darwin they are Social-Scientists even less understood.

I am well aware that the world turns, as the yi jing says, good times are followed by bad times and what is bad must eventually become good... free market... democracy... oligarchs... and kings... the Soviets put the working class into positions of power and look what the barbarians did... but do we deny that structure and form have any bearing on how we behave?... social-scientists yes... I am interested in social technology. Thank you.

Sure if you think working working for a few dollars is a position of power.

Wouldn't you prefer to be able to set up your own business, invent something, be an artist, or control your own destiny in some way? Wouldn't you prefer to be rewarding for the effort you put in? Do you really think working for some Communist Oligarchs to throw you a bone is better than your own freedom?

It's not about being very rich. Only 0.0001% are super rich. But you could be well off and content. And a lot of people work hard and get there. being well off is also a subjective thing. It has a different meaning for all of us. Some people could be content with a loving family, kids, health and a roof.

Life is full of games. Some games involve life and death. Is death full of games as well?

I am a humble servant. Why would I want an upside down world? There is a natural order in the world, i.e. hierarchy, but the positions change, as if a dance, some might call it algebra, others alchemy or combinatorics, I am looking for a king with whom to serve, I cannot accept that he is dead.

Never seen this fascinating phenomenon before; three idiots in succession communicating with each other without even listening to each other!

There must be a scientific word for this…

[tsukoui]

...consider the life of Trotsky, talk about "black", and "white".

What is natural will be; for that Truth he died, rather quietly: and yet "Communists" asks why.

tsuk, look further than what is the polemics of those too lazy to read for themselves.

...you will find as i did, that Marx and Engels were not "Communists" in the Russian vain; not unlike Darwin they are Social-Scientists even less understood.

I am well aware that the world turns, as the yi jing says, good times are followed by bad times and what is bad must eventually become good... free market... democracy... oligarchs... and kings... the Soviets put the working class into positions of power and look what the barbarians did... but do we deny that structure and form have any bearing on how we behave?... social-scientists yes... I am interested in social technology. Thank you.

Sure if you think working working for a few dollars is a position of power.

Wouldn't you prefer to be able to set up your own business, invent something, be an artist, or control your own destiny in some way? Wouldn't you prefer to be rewarding for the effort you put in? Do you really think working for some Communist Oligarchs to throw you a bone is better than your own freedom?

It's not about being very rich. Only 0.0001% are super rich. But you could be well off and content. And a lot of people work hard and get there. being well off is also a subjective thing. It has a different meaning for all of us. Some people could be content with a loving family, kids, health and a roof.

Life is full of games. Some games involve life and death. Is death full of games as well?

I am a humble servant. Why would I want an upside down world? There is a natural order in the world, i.e. hierarchy, but the positions change, as if a dance, some might call it algebra, others alchemy or combinatorics, I am looking for a king with whom to serve, I cannot accept that he is dead.

Never seen this fascinating phenomenon before; three idiots in succession communicating with each other without even listening to each other!

There must be a scientific word for this…

Would it help if we knew who we were talking to? Mysteries are part of the tradition, and working with them can be more effective then working with certainties. I would like to exchange experiences and knowledge, which is more dangerous, I don't know