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Re: Cyprus becoming a post national state (reply to Nicholas

Postby DrCyprus » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:28 am

What did Nicholas Pri post?
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Re: Cyprus becoming a post national state (reply to Nicholas

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:30 pm

http://in-cyprus.com/a-cyprus-solution-a-brief-view-of-what-is-important/#comment-4057

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...many Cypriot Constituencies can exist. Cyprus is an ethnos, not, "Turkish" and not "Turkish", or, "Greek" and not "Greek". Cypriots exist, they remain, despite the efforts to marginalize such an intention (by "Greeks" and "Turks").

Recognition of a Turkish Cypriot Constituency, is possible, if it exists within the context of a set of Cypriot Constituencies. While representing Persons, offering self representation toward sustaining this distinct identity, as electors, they (any Constituency of this set of Constituencies which chooses to do so) will be closer to their taxes spent toward their own efforts. But, as Individuals, and at a superior level of government, Cypriots, beyond Liberties like these which they may enjoy, to secure them, they need to secure the Freedom which comes from demonstrating a commitment to Universal Principals, as Cypriots, without further distinction or discrimination, willing to defend (a Rule of Law, and) each other.

...when i think of a BBF (Bicommunal Bizonal Federation), i think of Canada, and the USA.

...in that regard the Republic of Cyprus should have no equal.
...(while its government(s) defend Universal Principals equally)

...enclaves are not a dirty word. Even if the "Green line" remains little unchanged, Free Movement, Free Association, and Free Expression, are all encouraged with the geographic insertion of enclaves on the map of Cyprus, north and south. In any case, Justice seen, for the displaced, requires from all Cypriots their recognition and respect. Some at least should return as they left, as Communities, not just as Individuals. The "Green Line" cannot exist but as a frontier among many, or for the good of Cypriots, and if not, it should not exist not at all.

"Something", entirely "Turkish", or entirely "Greek" should (if need be) represent, something entirely small. In any case, and in that regard, nothing more than 1.5% land-wise, i think, is acceptable for either party as such, because in over fifty years of having divided Cypriots, holding the Agenda, they have failed to provide a justification for "their" existence, to the rest of us (as Human beings).

...witness the Occupy Movement in Nicosia a few years ago; the youth in Cyprus, not so easily divided: they are (and were) Cypriot, and despite their differences they remained united for a Cypriot way as Cypriots. New thinking is needed from the political elite, what with the lack of charity they, these young Cypriots received, toward their efforts to "take back" Cyprus from its interlocutors, from them, then. Witness today, in a strange counter-intuitive kind of way, Eroglu is not heading to the negotiations, Akinci is. Witness this same desire from Koray Basdogrultmaci and Cinel Senem Husseyin, having to win the right to "being" Cypriot.

It is a singular message.

... thus, i think the President needs the credibility of winning Individual votes, whatever ethnic origin they may declare themselves to be (or to be a representative of). To lead, it would be reasonable to imagine that a leader could (or should) hold a majority of seats in the legislature where they present an Agenda. If the State was represented with a Bicameral Legislature, it would be possible to have representation by population, and by Party politics. I suggest that at a Federal Election, every Citizen is given three votes, one from each slate offered at their polling station, for a Turkish Cypriot Representative, and a Greek Cypriot Representative, of an Upper Chamber divided equally as seats for the winning candidates, Parties offered on two of these slates, and a third vote, from a third slate, for an Independent Representative of the Lower House, for sober second thought, (a Lower House will offer, regions, minorities (in the context: not "Greek", not "Turkish"), and other minorities,) a voice in making better Law, their debate, to open public consideration, (and Amendments), to secure transparency in the making of Law, they would vote by consensus, respectively, for their electorate as a neighborhood directly. The Leader of the Party winning a majority of seats in such an Upper House, facing such a Lower House, would surely have the confidence, and the representation to lead all Cypriots.

Beyond what could be, or should be, there is Cyprus now. Direct action means more flags that people will sit under. In that regard, in our daily lives, more can be done to do so. This message loud and clear can be brought to the present day ruling class, if when they dare to look out their windows they see such a flag, the Flag of Cyprus, flying from a rooftop, or on a car, as one which cannot be ignored among the many already there, because it is always there, there are more there, in their view. This, Cypriots can do for themselves, now. And in doing so, move closer to each other, seen, as Cypriots, an end, for a better future.

...in the context of, "a ratio", it, should not be set in stone, Constitutionally speaking. Cypriots cannot assume in a world such as ours, that this ratio will not change, or that the demographics will remain the same as the world changes around Cyprus; it is another reason for a Cyprus in terms of representation, for Cypriots, whether representation for "Greeks", or "Turks", "Maronites", "Armenians", or even "British", exists or not.


...enjoyed the article/opinion; thanks.
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Re: Cyprus becoming a post national state (reply to Nicholas

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:54 am

...why is it important for Universities to organise themselves for the needs of Cyprus and Cypriots?

...while there may exist different Hospital Systems, how do they benefit from standards a Federal Government will make?

...how does he propose to make profitable venture possible among Cypriots, despite the divide (of prejudice from those "Turkish", and dare i say it "Greek"), for the benefit of Cypriots?

...and how about a consolidation in the Tourist industry, so that Cypriots can compete effectively (as an island destination)? Thus, i ask, where there are Turkish Cypriots in this Industry in the occupied north, why not support them? That by differentiating this choice, visitors might have access to them, and choose them? Against the illegal exploitation (by exposing such Hotels unqualified) would those qualified receive the same support, from his Government, toward promoting Tourism, in Cyprus, as other Cypriot Hoteliers?

These are some of the questions i would like Mr. Malas to answer.

...does he dare to offer Akinci an Airport; if visitors are greeted in Turkish first, as a Cypriot would he be willing to stand under the Flag of Cyprus, for that?

...what of the AKEL connection? Where are the Flags of Cyprus by the working class, flown both sides of the Green Line; that would be nice wouldn't it, as a demonstration of support?

The issue of Cyprus is being sidestepped, as it was last week in the elections held in the occupied part of Cyprus, "being" a Cypriot, what that is, was not discussed; only money, finance, and of course the corruption that must be stopped.

It may be early in this election bid, but nothing new has been said yet; differentiating the candidates without new thinking on the real issue in Cyprus, the Problem, only invites a low turnout at the polls, and more cynicism. Without leadership of this kind, with the future in mind, a Cyprus, what is expected?

Hope is needed. Needed beyond "Greek" candidates and "Turkish" candidates, representation that is Cypriot, for Cyprus, a vision as a President of Cyprus, is what is needed from this election for Cypriots, indeed, to ultimately win, all Cypriots.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2018/01/12/malas ... -solution/

...you might find this interesting, my comment to an article i read; cheers.
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Re: Cyprus becoming a post national state (reply to Nicholas

Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:40 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...you might find this interesting, my comment to an article i read; cheers.

Your comment interesting? :?

Dude, nonsense is NEVER interesting so quit polluting the Internet with your gobbledygook!
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