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Re: The Acanthus.

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:20 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Oh of course. It had to be The Free Masons and the new World Order! :lol:


What's your guess Genius?
anything fancy about the Aussies.... again? :lol:

NB. the Masons have nothing to do with NWO

And btw If I were so blindfolded like you I would never be proposed to become one.


I don’t have any guess at all as I have absolutely no knowledge of this subject.

Would love to find out some great info though without the topic degenerating to some kind of Free Mason NWO secret society nonsense getting in the way.
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Re: The Acanthus.

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Oh of course. It had to be The Free Masons and the new World Order! :lol:


What's your guess Genius?
anything fancy about the Aussies.... again? :lol:

NB. the Masons have nothing to do with NWO

And btw If I were so blindfolded like you I would never be proposed to become one.


I don’t have any guess at all as I have absolutely no knowledge of this subject.

Would love to find out some great info though without the topic degenerating to some kind of Free Mason NWO secret society nonsense getting in the way.


Nonsense is you own opinion Genius!
Go ahead tell us something really Original :lol:
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Re: The Acanthus.

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:59 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Oh of course. It had to be The Free Masons and the new World Order! :lol:


What's your guess Genius?
anything fancy about the Aussies.... again? :lol:

NB. the Masons have nothing to do with NWO

And btw If I were so blindfolded like you I would never be proposed to become one.


I don’t have any guess at all as I have absolutely no knowledge of this subject.

Would love to find out some great info though without the topic degenerating to some kind of Free Mason NWO secret society nonsense getting in the way.


Nonsense is you own opinion Genius!
Go ahead tell us something really Original :lol:


Tell you what?

I really do not know much about the Corinthian Columns and know absolutely zero about the Green Man Pagan sculptures.

All I can say is that both are beautiful creations. Is that original enough for you? I really love the Green man sculptures. Can you imagine the amount of time and talent required to create something like that?
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Re: The Acanthus.

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:32 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Oh of course. It had to be The Free Masons and the new World Order! :lol:


What's your guess Genius?
anything fancy about the Aussies.... again? :lol:

NB. the Masons have nothing to do with NWO

And btw If I were so blindfolded like you I would never be proposed to become one.


I don’t have any guess at all as I have absolutely no knowledge of this subject.

Would love to find out some great info though without the topic degenerating to some kind of Free Mason NWO secret society nonsense getting in the way.


Nonsense is you own opinion Genius!
Go ahead tell us something really Original :lol:


Tell you what?

I really do not know much about the Corinthian Columns and know absolutely zero about the Green Man Pagan sculptures.

All I can say is that both are beautiful creations. Is that original enough for you? I really love the Green man sculptures. Can you imagine the amount of time and talent required to create something like that?


Truly "Original". Hey GIG according to Paphitis they are "beautiful", have you been enlightened now? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Acanthus.

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:17 am

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Truly "Original". Hey GIG according to Paphitis they are "beautiful", have you been enlightened now? :lol: :lol: :lol:


I wasn’t planning to add to the subject. I just responded to your mention of Free Masonry and then your stupid taunts.

I replied that I didn’t have anything useful to contribute to the subject whereby you taunted some more and I responded that these sculptures are beautiful just to appease your feeble mind. What else do you want me to say?

I do not know anything about these sculptures ok. But I fully appreciate their buaety. It’s much better to respond in this fashion than to come up with some Free Masonry stupidity when you do not have a clue about the architecture of these church’s or the inspiration for this type of artistic expression.

If I had some useful knowledge about the subject then rest assured that I will enlighten whoever I can. I won’t hold back. Promise.

Methinks you have literally lost the plot. :roll:
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Re: The Acanthus.

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Truly "Original". Hey GIG according to Paphitis they are "beautiful", have you been enlightened now? :lol: :lol: :lol:


I wasn’t planning to add to the subject. I just responded to your mention of Free Masonry and then your stupid taunts.

I replied that I didn’t have anything useful to contribute to the subject whereby you taunted some more and I responded that these sculptures are beautiful just to appease your feeble mind. What else do you want me to say?

I do not know anything about these sculptures ok. But I fully appreciate their buaety. It’s much better to respond in this fashion than to come up with some Free Masonry stupidity when you do not have a clue about the architecture of these church’s or the inspiration for this type of artistic expression.

If I had some useful knowledge about the subject then rest assured that I will enlighten whoever I can. I won’t hold back. Promise.

Methinks you have literally lost the plot. :roll:


You proved times and times again that stupidity is just a measure of your own Genius!
Everybody is allowed to express an opinion, a guess whatever.
By the minute you think something as "stupid" without caring to provide the slightest proof that it actually is,really makes you the kind of Genius i think you are.
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Re: The Acanthus.

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:12 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:You proved times and times again that stupidity is just a measure of your own Genius!
Everybody is allowed to express an opinion, a guess whatever.
By the minute you think something as "stupid" without caring to provide the slightest proof that it actually is,really makes you the kind of Genius i think you are.

:shock: Who typed this out, one of your grand-kids? Bloody hell! :? :lol:
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Re: The Acanthus.

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:25 am

Neeext! :P
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Re: The Acanthus.

Postby kurupetos » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:03 am

The spell checker is back... :mrgreen:
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Re: The Acanthus.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:47 pm

The Acanthus receives quite a lot of explanation in this article, firmly connecting the Pagan with the Christian, at least:

http://biblefocus.net/consider/meaning- ... index.html

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The first use of the decoration in a Corinthian column was in the Temple of Apollo Epicurius in Arcadia, ca. 450–420 BCE.
The original use in the temple designed for Apollo in Corinth reveals a further connection. The name Apollo originally meant 'to destroy'. The following quote shows Apollo means destroyer as 'Abaddon' also means 'destroyer'

They had a king over them, which is the messenger of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue has his name Apollyon. (Rev 9:11).

Apollo came also to be thought of as 'a healer'

Acanthus Leaves Is a medicinal plant associated with Apollo and his healing abilities. The curling leaves of the acanthus became the main element of the Corinthian capital. It can be seen today not only in Greece and Rome on Temples, but on our own U.S. Post Offices, libraries and any number of Greek Revival buildings of the nineteenth century. www.solnyc.com/

But to the Pagan Romans Apollo meant 'light' and then he was transformed into a sun deity by the Celts.

The destroying-healing Apollo was first and naturally associated with the the acanthus leaf, and then the acanthus leaf took on that pagan meaning, and came itself to mean 'regeneration'

Although many variants of the style are known, the principal component was the acanthus leaf, symbol of death and rebirth.... Being an herbaceous plant, the acanthus is an ideal symbol of regeneration.

From its use in Roman design the thoroughly pagan symbol was imported as a symbol into state run Christianity when it inherited the Roman world as the Byzantine style continued the use of the formerly pagan design.

The symbolism and meaning associated with the Acanthus is that of enduring life, and the plant is traditionally displayed at funerary celebrations.
In Christianity the thorny leaves represent pain, sin and punishment. Acanthus symbolizes immortality in Mediterranean countries.
"In Greece 2 BC the acanthus was a clear reference to life emerging from a grave. It was not initially a reference to resurrection in Christian sense, but in a sense that life is cyclical."
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