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Citizenship application M121 vs M123

Postby scharalambous » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:41 pm

Hi, I am half Greek Cypriot and looking to apply for my Cypriot Citizenship. I was born in the UK in 1977. My father was born in Cyprus in 1947 and emigrated to the UK when he was 6 years old. He holds a British passport. He has never held a Cypriot passport.

I appear to be eligible for M121 and M123 (see definitions below) and hoping to clarify which one I should apply under. M121 states "whos father at the time of birth birth was a Cypriot citizen". Does this mean at the time of his birth or my birth?

If anyone can be of any help with this that would be brilliant.

Steve Charalambous

Application for Consular Birth Certificate (type M121)

It can be submitted by either minors or adults (above the age of 18), who were born abroad after the 16th of August 1960 and whose father at the time of birth was a Cypriot citizen, and by individuals born after the 11th of June 1999, whose mother was a Cypriot citizen at the time of their birth.

Application type M123

It can be submitted by adults who were born on the 16th of August 1960 or after and none of their parents at the date of their birth was a Cypriot citizen.

Additionally it can be submitted by adults who were born after the 16th of August 1960 and originate from a person, who became a British citizen based on the Annexation of Cyprus Orders in Council 1914 to 1943 or a person born in Cyprus after the 5th of November 1914 and prior to the 16th of August 1960.
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Re: Citizenship application M121 vs M123

Postby kurupetos » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:44 pm

Contact the Ministry of Interior, Civil Registry and Migration Department.

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/crmd/crmd.nsf ... enDocument

Call them during office hours. :wink:
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Re: Citizenship application M121 vs M123

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:51 am

scharalambous wrote:If anyone can be of any help with this that would be brilliant.

Do we seriously look like we’re authorized to deal with births, deaths, marriages, divorces, wills, immigration issues, and other legal matters here? :?

What the hell is wrong with this world... :lol:
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Re: Citizenship application M121 vs M123

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:54 am

kurupetos wrote:Call them during office hours. :wink:

Yeah, and don't forget to use a TELEPHONE to call, not a banana! (can't be too careful with millennials)
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Re: Citizenship application M121 vs M123

Postby Sotos » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:05 am

scharalambous wrote:"whos father at the time of birth birth was a Cypriot citizen". Does this mean at the time of his birth or my birth?


It is not clear. I am guessing it refers to your birth, but it doesn't matter anyways because your father was at no point a Cypriot citizen. So based on what you wrote the correct form would be the M123.
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Re: Citizenship application M121 vs M123

Postby B25 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:19 am

Sotos wrote:
scharalambous wrote:"whos father at the time of birth birth was a Cypriot citizen". Does this mean at the time of his birth or my birth?


It is not clear. I am guessing it refers to your birth, but it doesn't matter anyways because your father was at no point a Cypriot citizen. So based on what you wrote the correct form would be the M123.


Sotos, if his father was born in Cyprus to Cypriot parents, surely he qualifies as a Cypriot Citizen?
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Re: Citizenship application M121 vs M123

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:18 am

scharalambous wrote: M121 states "whos father at the time of birth birth was a Cypriot citizen". Does this mean at the time of his birth or my birth?


Logically, I would say it should refer to the time of your birth as you are the applicant whose application depends on a father who was a Cypriot citizen when you were born: i.e. at the moment of your birth, was your father a Cypriot Citizen? That doesn't necessarily depend on him holding a Cypriot passport, I believe, as many Cypriot citizens did not hold passports (due to lack of money or travel opportunities) but they would have had a tautodida (id card).

Are you making your application via London Consulate or going to Cyprus to apply (I hear it only takes 3 days in Cyprus but could take months via London).
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Re: Citizenship application M121 vs M123

Postby CBBB » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:05 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Are you making your application via London Consulate or going to Cyprus to apply (I hear it only takes 3 days in Cyprus but could take months via London).

You have obviously just received your rose tinted glasses!

Nothing takes 3 days in Cyprus, even one day takes a month!

Even with a Cypriot wife, 40 odd years in Cyprus, and ministerial 'mesa', it took me 2 years to get Cypriot Citizenship.
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Re: Citizenship application M121 vs M123

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:11 pm

CBBB wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Are you making your application via London Consulate or going to Cyprus to apply (I hear it only takes 3 days in Cyprus but could take months via London).

You have obviously just received your rose tinted glasses!

Nothing takes 3 days in Cyprus, even one day takes a month!

Even with a Cypriot wife, 40 odd years in Cyprus, and ministerial 'mesa', it took me 2 years to get Cypriot Citizenship.


That's probably because your application was as a foreign spouse. By birth takes precedence! :)
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Re: Citizenship application M121 vs M123

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:18 pm

CBBB wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Are you making your application via London Consulate or going to Cyprus to apply (I hear it only takes 3 days in Cyprus but could take months via London).

You have obviously just received your rose tinted glasses!

Nothing takes 3 days in Cyprus, even one day takes a month!

Even with a Cypriot wife, 40 odd years in Cyprus, and ministerial 'mesa', it took me 2 years to get Cypriot Citizenship.

That's only because you were intoxicated at the interview so they gave you the runarounds. :lol:
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