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[Pyrpolizer]

They normal valuation for each share should translate to the approximate real value of the entire company.

Surely, the value of any share in any company is the price that somebody is prepared to buy it for...? Or should I say sell it for...?

Assuming there are enough suckers around of course

[cyprusgrump]

They normal valuation for each share should translate to the approximate real value of the entire company.

Surely, the value of any share in any company is the price that somebody is prepared to buy it for...? Or should I say sell it for...?

Assuming there are enough suckers around of course

Indeed!

[Pyrpolizer]

They normal valuation for each share should translate to the approximate real value of the entire company.

Surely, the value of any share in any company is the price that somebody is prepared to buy it for...? Or should I say sell it for...?

Assuming there are enough suckers around of course

Indeed!

I wonder how many millions were they from 2005 to 2008

[cyprusgrump]

They normal valuation for each share should translate to the approximate real value of the entire company.

Surely, the value of any share in any company is the price that somebody is prepared to buy it for...? Or should I say sell it for...?

Assuming there are enough suckers around of course

Indeed!

I wonder how many millions were they from 2005 to 2008

[Paphitis]

I do not all that share ever trading at 60 euros.

Stats do recall

TomTom.png

One more thing, market cap is determined by the number of shares on issue multiplied by their value. They could be 60 Euros but with like 1 tenth of the volume of shares resulting in the same market cap. So you need to find out how many shares are on issue.

They were the same both before the 60 Euros boom and after

I use to work for Cobham and was issued with some shares that are worth 300 British pounds each.

Companies issue and buy back shares all the time.

Where does it say that?

Show me that the number of shares in 2006 were exactly the same as today.

Where is your evidence?

here is a hint for you. The amount of issued shares always vary. There is no way in hell that their were the same amount of shares issued in 2006 as 2018. Tom Tom issues and buys back shares continuously and it has a 50 million Euro share buy back under way right now.

https://corporate.tomtom.com/investors/ ... re-buyback

[Paphitis]

They normal valuation for each share should translate to the approximate real value of the entire company.

Surely, the value of any share in any company is the price that somebody is prepared to buy it for...? Or should I say sell it for...?

Assuming there are enough suckers around of course

You are the suckey that will be eating cat food in retirement.

As I proved to you before, the Pension schemes of some clever countries like Norway, Japan, Australia, Denmark and a few others rely on the market and this is why these countries will survive moving forward while Cyprus would most likely become bankrupt. Again!

The stock market has had an upward trajectory, and has outperformed all asset classes and you know that.

[Paphitis]

They normal valuation for each share should translate to the approximate real value of the entire company.

Surely, the value of any share in any company is the price that somebody is prepared to buy it for...? Or should I say sell it for...?

Assuming there are enough suckers around of course

Indeed!

I wonder how many millions were they from 2005 to 2008

Now you have asked an intelligent question. You need to look at the market capitalisation back then.

And you will probably find it was only about 500 million to a Billion in 2006.

If you do your research you will find your answers.

Tom Tom had only just listed in 2005:

https://www.referenceforbusiness.com/hi ... m-N-V.html

In 2005 and 2006 there was only the initial offering of shares. There were NOT the same amount of shares back then as there are today. Tom Tom has made more share offerings after 2005 and 2006.

[Pyrpolizer]

I do not all that share ever trading at 60 euros.

Stats do recall

TomTom.png

One more thing, market cap is determined by the number of shares on issue multiplied by their value. They could be 60 Euros but with like 1 tenth of the volume of shares resulting in the same market cap. So you need to find out how many shares are on issue.

They were the same both before the 60 Euros boom and after

I use to work for Cobham and was issued with some shares that are worth 300 British pounds each.

Companies issue and buy back shares all the time.

Where does it say that?

Show me that the number of shares in 2006 were exactly the same as today.

Where is your evidence?

here is a hint for you. The amount of issued shares always vary. There is no way in hell that their were the same amount of shares issued in 2006 as 2018. Tom Tom issues and buys back shares continuously and it has a 50 million Euro share buy back under way right now.

https://corporate.tomtom.com/investors/ ... re-buyback

I didn't say they were the same from 2006 until today.
I said they were he same before the boom and after (meaning + or - 1 year) around the boom.
In fact if you do your own homework you will find the number of shares was then about 120 million.
Do you need to be a rocket scientist to realize that your statement that the traded value of a share "should translate to the approximate real value of the entire company" was utterly wrong?

I know about the buyback. The reason they did it is very well shadowed in their report, but nevertheless ii was only about 5 million shares out of the circulating 300 million.
In fact if you do your own homework you will find that from Dec 2013 to date the number of shares is about constant to 300 million.

[Pyrpolizer]

Now you have asked an intelligent question. You need to look at the market capitalisation back then.

And you will probably find it was only about 500 million to a Billion in 2006.

If you do your research you will find your answers.

Tom Tom had only just listed in 2005:

https://www.referenceforbusiness.com/hi ... m-N-V.html

In 2005 and 2006 there was only the initial offering of shares. There were NOT the same amount of shares back then as there are today. Tom Tom has made more share offerings after 2005 and 2006.

I was actually referring to the number of suckers who bought it at that price

[Pyrpolizer]

They normal valuation for each share should translate to the approximate real value of the entire company.

Surely, the value of any share in any company is the price that somebody is prepared to buy it for...? Or should I say sell it for...?

Assuming there are enough suckers around of course

You are the suckey that will be eating cat food in retirement.

As I proved to you before, the Pension schemes of some clever countries like Norway, Japan, Australia, Denmark and a few others rely on the market and this is why these countries will survive moving forward while Cyprus would most likely become bankrupt. Again!

The stock market has had an upward trajectory, and has outperformed all asset classes and you know that.

Nonsense. The likelihood is that it's you who will get bankrupt. The Stock markets are similar (but not the same) as pyramid schemes that thrive as long as the number of suckers increases.
The vast majority of stocks suck your money in a way you need about 20 years to break even, assuming that in the meantime they are doing alright.