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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby boomerang » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:54 am

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:Tesla is going bust? :lol:

Far out man. The day Tesla goes bust, we are all doomed! :lol:

Very fascinating about Chinese Stocks Boomerang. Always wondered about them but never knew enough.

Have you bought a Tesla Boomerang. I am thinking about it but they might get cheaper in a couple of years. Good car for the wife which I can also use!! :mrgreen:


no man still driving my 17 year jeep wj 4.7 litre V8, I drove one in china from shanghai to yongkang in a tesla, don't like it...i liked ludicrous mode tho.. lol


Ludicrous mode? They have self drive mode as an option! 8)

I got my guzzler too. So I was thinking a Tesla might average my fuel bill down. lol


ludicrous mode means 0 to 100 under 2 secs...


hehe...drove one in china...fucking unbelievable

Fucken sold! I want one!
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:21 pm

"At the beginning of April, Tesla founder and CEO Elon Musk joked about the company going bankrupt, but it appears that such a seemingly unlikely outcome is no laughing matter. There is now a “genuine risk” that the electric car company won’t have enough money to make it out of this calendar year,Bloomberg reports."
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:58 pm

miltiades wrote:"At the beginning of April, Tesla founder and CEO Elon Musk joked about the company going bankrupt, but it appears that such a seemingly unlikely outcome is no laughing matter. There is now a “genuine risk” that the electric car company won’t have enough money to make it out of this calendar year,Bloomberg reports."


It's nonsense. Elon Musk will just inject the necessary money from his Lithium Battery Plant which is where the man is printing money right now.

No one is gonna let Tesla fall. This business is going places and they are way ahead in the market. This is the new smart car and there is nothing like it anywhere.

This is what I think is happening. Bloomberg are talking the stock down so that the big fat cats can buy in cheap.

I just can't believe ludicrous mode. What a cracker!

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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:45 pm

When trading one has to keep an open mind. Read, digest and invest but do NOT dismiss comments of finance experts, they are not always correct but you must not dismiss their views. Right now Im not convinced that injecting funds from another branch is the answer. The debts are 15% of MC. Too high in my opinion.
I would sit on this one whilst keeping an eye on its performance over the next 2-3 months.
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby boomerang » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:45 am

miltiades wrote:Eight of 22 top executives at auto suppliers surveyed by an industry association said they were worried about Tesla filing for bankruptcy, the Wall Street Journal reported.Additionally, 18 of the 22 respondents reportedly said that they now believe that Tesla is a financial risk to their companies



miltiades wrote:How the fuck can you come on a publuc forum and recommend a company that most financial experts are concerned it might go bankrupt
Now, grow up will you and stop pretending you know shit about trading.
I bet you are. ...mullah !!


i can and here it is...

you quote 8 out of 22 and then you twist it to, most financial experts...well moron 8 out of 22 is not most...see your ability to comprehend is fucking abysmal...

this is why I come to a public forum and expose you as nothing but a flake...
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:55 am

I read somewhere traders don't even read stuff like CNBC, Bloomberg or the media.

They just look at raw data and have software that interprets candle graphs, and formulas to look at the P/E ratio and other data as well as the Financial Statements.

Other things they look at is their product, and market share, competitors and so on.

They don't go engaging in any of the hype. In fact, the media hype could be a ploy to lower the price of the stock so they can buy in at a better price. It's not a good idea to engage in that hype.

To me, I have always felt very strongly about the prospects of Tesla. Why? Well, not because of their fantastic smart cars, but because of their Lithium Plant. This is a 21st Century enterprise, I have no doubt.

And yes, Tesla has experienced some problems, but you need to keep this in context.

TESLA is a Bluey, and I reckon the big funds are onto them big time.

As for Chinese shares - China is a huge market.
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby boomerang » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:09 am

Paphitis wrote:I read somewhere traders don't even read stuff like CNBC, Bloomberg or the media.

They just look at raw data and have software that interprets candle graphs, and formulas to look at the P/E ratio and other data as well as the Financial Statements.

Other things they look at is their product, and market share, competitors and so on.

They don't go engaging in any of the hype. In fact, the media hype could be a ploy to lower the price of the stock so they can buy in at a better price.


yes that can be true for penny stocks but for actual high tech stock it differs a lot...you judge high tech for future earnings along with their patents...for example i made a lot of money from micron back in the days because we knew the cycles and stock holdings...we used to make 800,000 VGA cards per month...i didn't need any one to decipher for me when the actual company was indirectly telling you the high and low price...we knew in 3 months in advance the cost of DRAM...you knew the high and low price...you buy shares when the DRAM price is low and dump when is high... :lol:

these days too many players, back then only japanese and micron were making DRAM...
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:12 am

boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I read somewhere traders don't even read stuff like CNBC, Bloomberg or the media.

They just look at raw data and have software that interprets candle graphs, and formulas to look at the P/E ratio and other data as well as the Financial Statements.

Other things they look at is their product, and market share, competitors and so on.

They don't go engaging in any of the hype. In fact, the media hype could be a ploy to lower the price of the stock so they can buy in at a better price.


yes that can be true for penny stocks but for actual high tech stock it differs a lot...you judge high tech for future earnings along with their patents...for example i made a lot of money from micron back in the days because we knew the cycles and stock holdings...we used to make 800,000 VGA cards per month...i didn't need any one to decipher for me when the actual company was indirectly telling you the high and low price...we knew in 3 months in advance the cost of DRAM...you knew the high and low price...you buy shares when the DRAM price is low and dump when is high... :lol:

these days too many players, back then only japanese and micron were making DRAM...


Preaching to the converted mate. Tesla is one for the future.

I got a feeling this is going to be the biggest company in the world soon enough. The metrics are all there. people are going crazy over the Model 3. And the technology is only going to get better as fuel gets dearer, we will all eventually be wanting to get a Tesla.

As they step up production, their costs will come down as well, and the cars will be more affordable. If they made a little mini, it will sell like a hot cake.

There are others in the market, but no doubt in my mind that Tesla is way ahead.
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby boomerang » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:18 am

Paphitis wrote:I read somewhere traders don't even read stuff like CNBC, Bloomberg or the media.

They just look at raw data and have software that interprets candle graphs, and formulas to look at the P/E ratio and other data as well as the Financial Statements.

Other things they look at is their product, and market share, competitors and so on.

They don't go engaging in any of the hype. In fact, the media hype could be a ploy to lower the price of the stock so they can buy in at a better price. It's not a good idea to engage in that hype.

To me, I have always felt very strongly about the prospects of Tesla. Why? Well, not because of their fantastic smart cars, but because of their Lithium Plant. This is a 21st Century enterprise, I have no doubt.

And yes, Tesla has experienced some problems, but you need to keep this in context.

TESLA is a Bluey, and I reckon the big funds are onto them big time.

As for Chinese shares - China is a huge market.


tesla is like the apple company they revolutionised their industry...

the rumour is one day apple will buy tesla...what's stopping them now is the tesla profit margin, as apple runs on a much higher margin...once telsa becomes profitable to the point of apple expectations/margins you will see a buyout...the margings need to be on par...

apple needs tesla because apple is seen as an innovating company and needs to continue to be a leader and an innovator...

actually apple is doing shit right now with the latest overpriced iphones...the market penalised them, they lost the $1 trillion company and adding salt to injury they lost to Microsoft the most valuable company status...so the buyout might be closer than what everyone thinks...they will once again be $1 trillion company and not only they will capture most valuable status but will be far ahead for a long time...
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:22 am

That is a good way of putting it.

Plus their profit/loss isn't important right now. The profits will come soon...

Honestly, the Tesla is just one huge computer on wheels. usually technology like this was the realm of Aviation. That is the level of the technology we are dealing with here. And it is much more affordable now to the average consumer.

Soon, Tesla is going to have their own Tesla Store, where you can download movies and music to listen to whilst the vehicle drives you from A to B. :lol:

I still love that ludicrous mode. That shows that they have a great sense of humour. :lol:

It's got Apple written all over.

My imagination is running wild with it. One day, you will hit a button on your Apple Phone, and the Tesla Car will drive itself to the door where you are waiting and when it get's there it will use facial recognition to open the door so you can get in. Or it will detect you from your phones radio wave.

Watch this space.
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