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Re: Sotos: uBlock, or Privacy Badger or Disconnect

Postby Sotos » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:53 am

Paphitis wrote:
Sotos wrote:None ;) Some of the sites I create depend on ads and I therefore do not usually use anything that blocks ads (in some rare occasions I use UBlock). I also do not use anything that automatically cripples the functionality of sites. If everybody blocked ads then ad supported websites would cease to exist and almost everything would be behind paywalls or would try to profit from you in another way, which would probably be worst than showing ads. Micro-payments would probably be a good solution but no such service had any great success so far.


Before you go Sotos. Your thoughts on these 2:

NoScript and HTTPS Everywhere

NoScript is pretty full on as it blocks Javascript over-zealously, thus requiring to whitelist your sites manually. I am apprehensive about it.


NoScript is extreme. I believe it blocks all scripts by default and then you have to manually white-list sites. HTTPS Everywhere is good. If a site has https then you should use that instead of http, and I believe HTTPS Everywhere does this automatically for you. HTTPS is a must have for any site where you login or send any sensitive info, especially if you are doing so over public Wi-Fi . If you are using public Wi-Fi then it would be a good idea to also use a trusted VPN service.
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Re: Sotos: uBlock, or Privacy Badger or Disconnect

Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:56 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Sorry, but all these browsers delete the cache upon exit and shut down. Also, they delete your history automatically.

That's if the user wants that. It's just a simple check box within settings.

Cache is a good think as are some cookies from the host site. You are just the internet TALIBAN trying to shut everything down.

You are dreaming again... :lol:


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Re: Sotos: uBlock, or Privacy Badger or Disconnect

Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:58 am

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Paphitis wrote:
Sotos wrote:None ;) Some of the sites I create depend on ads and I therefore do not usually use anything that blocks ads (in some rare occasions I use UBlock). I also do not use anything that automatically cripples the functionality of sites. If everybody blocked ads then ad supported websites would cease to exist and almost everything would be behind paywalls or would try to profit from you in another way, which would probably be worst than showing ads. Micro-payments would probably be a good solution but no such service had any great success so far.


Before you go Sotos. Your thoughts on these 2:

NoScript and HTTPS Everywhere

NoScript is pretty full on as it blocks Javascript over-zealously, thus requiring to whitelist your sites manually. I am apprehensive about it.


NoScript is extreme. I believe it blocks all scripts by default and then you have to manually white-list sites. HTTPS Everywhere is good. If a site has https then you should use that instead of http, and I believe HTTPS Everywhere does this automatically for you. HTTPS is a must have for any site where you login or send any sensitive info, especially if you are doing so over public Wi-Fi . If you are using public Wi-Fi then it would be a good idea to also use a trusted VPN service.

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Yep! NoScript is bloody extreme alright.

It destroys the net and whitelisting every website is a chore that just takes the fun out of the net.

So basically, uBlock is the only one we need?

You said you don't use anything. What do you do?
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Re: Sotos: uBlock, or Privacy Badger or Disconnect

Postby Sotos » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:05 am

Get Real! wrote:There's NOTHING you can do to save yourself fool because the crappy commercial browsers you're using will never abandon the CACHE for good reasons! :lol:


The Cache is very important for performance. For example if you visit this forum without anything in the cache you would need to download nearly 90 files, while if the forum has been cached recently you will need to download less than 15. I hope that you at least only clear the cache when the browser is closed, and you don't need to re-download all files with every single page view!
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Re: Sotos: uBlock, or Privacy Badger or Disconnect

Postby Sotos » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:15 am

Paphitis wrote:So basically, uBlock is the only one we need?

You said you don't use anything. What do you do?


I'd use UBlock in some rare occasions, but usually I don't use anything. Yes, blocking the ads can make pages load a bit faster but I don't do it as a matter of principle. About Google tracking me and all that I simply couldn't care less. The ISPs are tracking all of us anyways. If I don't want to be tracked I would use Tor.
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Re: Sotos: uBlock, or Privacy Badger or Disconnect

Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:15 am

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:There's NOTHING you can do to save yourself fool because the crappy commercial browsers you're using will never abandon the CACHE for good reasons! :lol:


The Cache is very important for performance. For example if you visit this forum without anything in the cache you would need to download nearly 90 files, while if the forum has been cached recently you will need to download less than 15. I hope that you at least only clear the cache when the browser is closed, and you don't need to re-download all files with every single page view!


Thank you Sotos.

The fool just doesn't get it. :lol:
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Re: Sotos: uBlock, or Privacy Badger or Disconnect

Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:17 am

Sotos wrote:
Paphitis wrote:So basically, uBlock is the only one we need?

You said you don't use anything. What do you do?


I'd use UBlock in some rare occasions, but usually I don't use anything. Yes, blocking the ads can make pages load a bit faster but I don't do it as a matter of principle. About Google tracking me and all that I simply couldn't care less. The ISPs are tracking all of us anyways. If I don't want to be tracked I would use Tor.


Thanks Sotos.

Makes perfect sense. I'm not worried about Google either.

But I do find adds annoying, especially nasty pop up adds and banners on news sites. but I take your point that if we all blocked them, then all our favorite sites will disappear behind pay walls.
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Re: Sotos: uBlock, or Privacy Badger or Disconnect

Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:07 pm

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:There's NOTHING you can do to save yourself fool because the crappy commercial browsers you're using will never abandon the CACHE for good reasons! :lol:


The Cache is very important for performance. For example if you visit this forum without anything in the cache you would need to download nearly 90 files, while if the forum has been cached recently you will need to download less than 15. I hope that you at least only clear the cache when the browser is closed, and you don't need to re-download all files with every single page view!

No Sotos, forget your 1980 cache stories… that’s all over! :lol:

Fetching content over the Internet is faster that digging into a 400mb cache file to retrieve a shitty little image here and another portion over there… by the time you make 90 such binary searches in a 400mb cache file, the Classic has already fetched the page from the server twice over!

Essentially it comes down to…

Internet baud rate vs Multiple digs into cache file and hard disk transfer rate

The Classic doesn't have a cache yet loads pages faster than any cache-based browser you may care to mention. The superior loading speed of the Classic is testament of what I’m saying.

Therefore… don’t just talk but TEST for yourself and THEN come and lecture me.

There's a good boy... :)
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Re: Sotos: uBlock, or Privacy Badger or Disconnect

Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:13 pm

I have tested and the Classic isn't faster than Mozilla or any other browsers. It isn't faster than any of them, including Chrome. In fact, it's frustratingly slow. Chrome would rip Classic a new arsehole when it comes to speed. :wink:

But what's worse, is that many websites are broken - YouTube for one.
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Re: Sotos: uBlock, or Privacy Badger or Disconnect

Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:49 pm

Paphitis wrote:I have tested and the Classic isn't faster than Mozilla or any other browsers. It isn't faster than any of them, including Chrome. In fact, it's frustratingly slow. Chrome would rip Classic a new arsehole when it comes to speed. :wink:

But what's worse, is that many websites are broken - YouTube for one.

You think we test such things with the naked eye? :)

The only thing broken is your autistic brain you spastic pea-brained cunt! :lol:
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