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[MR-from-NG]

You two are a couple of idiots feeding of each other. If they were gc the police would’ve prevented this serial killer. I’m gonna keep it short. The murderer met his victims through social media. I repeat you dickbrains, social fucking media. If the victims were Greek the police would’ve at least checked their phone and pc or fucking laptops for clues. There would’ve been one fucking common denominator in their contacts and that would have been game over for the killer. You are so fucking stupid, the fucking pair of you. The victims are dead because they were poor fucking foreigners.

Social fucking media the killer used for fucks sake. In which developed country can you see a murderer getting away with 7 fucking murders using social media to pick his victims?

You also have a point but what if there wasn't a phone, or a pc to check.

Its easy to say, check their social media in hindsight, after the perpetrator confesses that he met them on there.

The UK, I found this example that shows 4 victims of a serial killer using social media to lure them.
http://theconversation.com/how-a-serial ... note-69368

This guy from the US got away with 48 murders. 48!!!!! (but not from using social media)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Ridgway

Max, the phone doesn't have to be physically there. I'm sure friends/relatives of the missing people knew their phone numbers and thats all the police needed. It would be interesting to see if the police even bothered contacting the victims mobile phone service providers for the records. They could've found out all text messages, calls made and received as well as the areas they frequented.

What I would like to see is a full independent enquiry into this case. This would be a difficult task knowing the Cypriot Cover UP culture. Furthermore,everybody has something to hide in Cyprus and they're all bloody cousins

[Maximus]

again, Kiks is a Cypriot, he is Turkish, what it seems you find so offensive is, he is no "Turk".

Kiks speaks for himself, i am only expressing how i see things.

RW, with all due respect. I came on this forum many years ago and I claimed to be Cypriot, albeit a Turkish speaking Cypriot. The reaction I got from many of the GC members convinced me that I am denied this identity. To the vast majority of GC's we are Turks. Here's a challenge for you. Why don't you start a poll and ask fellow forum members to define Turkish speaking Cypriots? I'd urge you to keep it real simple, just ask "Are the Turkish speaking community Cypriots or Turks"

Its not that simple though is it, because it brings a multitude of other problems. Otherwise known as the Cyprus problem. if it was as simple as language, there wouldn't be a problem.

Here is the challenge for you; which branch on the tree of civilization do you believe that you come from?

The Greek Cypriot branch that converted to Islam and speaks Turkish or the Attilla the hun / Ottoman branch?

Are you a Greek Cypriot that speaks Turkish or a Turk that calls himself Cypriot?

Think about that, even though it might just shatter your reality.

Max, does it really matter? I was born in Cyprus. My great great great grandparents were also born in Cyprus. Shouldn't I have the right to call myself Cypriot?

Well, you can, as long as you dont see yourself as a separate Cypriot and split the identity at the same time.

[MR-from-NG]

again, Kiks is a Cypriot, he is Turkish, what it seems you find so offensive is, he is no "Turk".

Kiks speaks for himself, i am only expressing how i see things.

RW, with all due respect. I came on this forum many years ago and I claimed to be Cypriot, albeit a Turkish speaking Cypriot. The reaction I got from many of the GC members convinced me that I am denied this identity. To the vast majority of GC's we are Turks. Here's a challenge for you. Why don't you start a poll and ask fellow forum members to define Turkish speaking Cypriots? I'd urge you to keep it real simple, just ask "Are the Turkish speaking community Cypriots or Turks"

Its not that simple though is it, because it brings a multitude of other problems. Otherwise known as the Cyprus problem. if it was as simple as language, there wouldn't be a problem.

Here is the challenge for you; which branch on the tree of civilization do you believe that you come from?

The Greek Cypriot branch that converted to Islam and speaks Turkish or the Attilla the hun / Ottoman branch?

Are you a Greek Cypriot that speaks Turkish or a Turk that calls himself Cypriot?

Think about that, even though it might just shatter your reality.

Max, does it really matter? I was born in Cyprus. My great great great grandparents were also born in Cyprus. Shouldn't I have the right to call myself Cypriot?

Well, you can, as long as you dont see yourself as a separate Cypriot and split the identity at the same time.

I'm proud to be Cypriot. When asked I always say Cypriot. I wouldn't say separate but I am undeniably different. I can't for a start speak Greek, I wish I could but I can't so that immediately makes me different. Apart from that I'm as Cypriot as any GC.

[Maximus]

Then all that needs to be done is to rid the island of the Turkish occupation, dismantle the "TRNC" and expect to receive the same rights as any GC.

[MR-from-NG]

Then all that needs to be done is to rid the island of the Turkish occupation, dismantle the "TRNC" and expect to receive the same rights as any GC.

You probably won't believe me but I can assure you the vast majority of TC's subscribe to exactly that. Turkey can't be an occupying power forever. It will one day have to go. I just hope I will see a united Cyprus in my lifetime

[Maximus]

If you are being genuine, I believe you because I also believe that Turkey will be gone.

Sooner or later (its already been 45 years later), she will go but I dont think it will come about by any agreement from putting pen to paper.

There will come a point where she wont be able to afford it economically or politically.

[MR-from-NG]

If you are being genuine, I believe you because I also believe that Turkey will be gone.

Sooner or later (its already been 45 years later), she will go but I dont think it will come about by any agreement from putting pen to paper.

There will come a point where she wont be able to afford it economically or politically.

I am absolutely being genuine. I am a realist, not a fantasist. Some of our GC members on many occasions said this will happen with the change in balance of power but in all reality this is just wishful thinking. I believe Turkey will always have the economic means to be on the island but politically it will run out of options and will have to withdraw.

I'm disappointed in that the negotiations have come to a standstill. Cyprus needs to be on the news all the time. It had momentum during and after the Annan plan but nowadays it doesn't get a mention. Out of sight out of mind they say, and this is whats happening with the Cyprus problem. We need global awareness and this is not happening.

[MR-from-NG]

Dunno what you folks are arguing about.

We can't handle the situation on our own.
The RoC brought over Scotland Yard. 5 man team.
They brought over specialized sonar and camera equipment. (from the video I watched, a Spaniard is in charge of the operation)
This has made local news headlines for nearly a month.
Scores of protests across the island
People are pissed off.

Homicide rate in England hits a 10 year high and nobody bats an eyelid.

UK has a big population, therefore more and bigger crime. Plus, crime rates are usually big in big population centers. Cyprus doesn't really have those.

Everything is more or less proportional.

But what are people in Cyprus pissed off about?


That this crime occurred? Sure, I think everyone is upset. This killer committed terrible crimes against vulnerable women and there is also a child too. Very evil. Serial Killers are evil.

Or are they pissed off with the police? If so, then why? It''s not their fault and I can't see how tey could have done anything different.

Its got really bad in the UK re...the only reason i say this is because there has been a spike in knife crimes and murders recently. Especially in London.

Relatively speaking though, Cyprus is one of the safest places to live on earth.

I wouldn't attribute this to the police, but to the society and the culture of the country.

Anyone who says otherwise is probably not thinking straight because no police force can prevent someone from killing someone else. (in most cases.)

In all honesty max, new York is a very safe place to live too.

In fact, so many people swear by New York or have it in the blood - speak to my wife... She is hassling me out to move there under an E3B. She will pack the family up immediately. New York is to her what Cyprus is to Milti.

It is safe. Never felt in danger. But I you still got to be street smart.

I agree totally. I didn't have any problems with at all staying at the Waldorf Astoria.

The W in Union Square is safe too but I don’t really care, I’m streetwise and I don’t fear danger

[Paphitis]

Dunno what you folks are arguing about.

We can't handle the situation on our own.
The RoC brought over Scotland Yard. 5 man team.
They brought over specialized sonar and camera equipment. (from the video I watched, a Spaniard is in charge of the operation)
This has made local news headlines for nearly a month.
Scores of protests across the island
People are pissed off.

Homicide rate in England hits a 10 year high and nobody bats an eyelid.

UK has a big population, therefore more and bigger crime. Plus, crime rates are usually big in big population centers. Cyprus doesn't really have those.

Everything is more or less proportional.

But what are people in Cyprus pissed off about?

That this crime occurred? Sure, I think everyone is upset. This killer committed terrible crimes against vulnerable women and there is also a child too. Very evil. Serial Killers are evil.

Or are they pissed off with the police? If so, then why? It''s not their fault and I can't see how tey could have done anything different.

Its got really bad in the UK re...the only reason i say this is because there has been a spike in knife crimes and murders recently. Especially in London.

Relatively speaking though, Cyprus is one of the safest places to live on earth.

I wouldn't attribute this to the police, but to the society and the culture of the country.

Anyone who says otherwise is probably not thinking straight because no police force can prevent someone from killing someone else. (in most cases.)

In all honesty max, new York is a very safe place to live too.

In fact, so many people swear by New York or have it in the blood - speak to my wife... She is hassling me out to move there under an E3B. She will pack the family up immediately. New York is to her what Cyprus is to Milti.

It is safe. Never felt in danger. But you still got to be street smart.

I agree totally. I didn't have any problems at all staying at the Waldorf Astoria.

You wouldn't. We have family in Astoria and Whitestone. The cousins in Astoria are running a Real Estate Agency so we get these emails about stuff they are selling. She is award winning too. They specialize in the Astoria area. There are a lot of Greeks there.

It's not as dear as people would seem to think. Cheaper than Sydney. I don't mind the place. Very fast lane lifestyle though. Wife reckons she loves the "pulse" She lived there for a while working at the UN Headquarters.

[repulsewarrior]

Body of Six-Year Old Victim of Cyprus Serial Killer Found in Memi Lake

https://greece.greekreporter.com/2019/0 ... memi-lake/

RIP

...maybe now the evidence has been gathered, for the charges to be formally laid.