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Re: two state solution

Postby Lordo » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:45 am

Maximus wrote:So you got nothing,

I told you before, the “trnc” will find it very difficult to make it past 2-3 generations.

Next time you open those African education books, you should study Mandela and de Klerk and how they abolished apartheid in South Africa and why de Klerk had to do a complete 180 on his policies and beliefs. Apartheid in South Africa lasted about 50 years.

De Klerk came to Cyprus to give consultations. Did you know that?

Your side needs a de Klerk because you ain’t no Nelson I tell you. :roll:

Or do you prefer learning from wild animals? I can send you a link to A National Geographic Africa special documentary if you want.

what can de klerk teach us about democracy. what they did in south africa is that they gave up political power to the black people of the country but kept all the economic power. the reason why it does not work in cyprus is three fold.

1. you have the majority numbers and economic power and you will use it to ethnically cleans cyprus of tcs, which was incidently the policy of makarios in the 60s.
2. you psychopaths intend on wiping tcs from cyprus and enosising.
3. any tc who cannot read and write gc will be at a huge disadvantage when it comes to work. tcs will not become a second class citizen bending to gc will any time soon. they have their own culture and language and unless and it will be protected from you thugs.

you can take your shit and cover your face in it.

as to evidence about what anastasiades is up to, if you cannot see what he is up to, you will not find any other evidence becasue the basrtards do not record what they do. he met cavusoglu without akinci there and you don't seem to understand what it means. he met ozersay in secret knowing that ozersay is now supporting a two sate solution and you cannot see what it means, that is becasue you are stupid, young, brainwashed, idiotic excuse for a human being.

like i saud before dont you worry your tiny brain about these matters becasue you couldl not see them if it was a train coming towards you at 100 miles an hour. but once it hist you will relaise how stupid you have been.

have a nice day now.
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Re: two state solution

Postby Maximus » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:38 pm

Obviously, you know very little about South Africa.

The natives (blacks) are far better off than the tc are. South Africa has also developed to a point that could make Cyprus envious. It is the economic powerhouse of Africa and their standard of living surpasses some European and Asian countries. Probably better than turkey. That was only made possible when apartheid was abolished.

Furthermore, wealth was redistributed over time, and now there is a natural balance with a major black middle class.

But you do raise some good points But you make it sound like you are stuck in a place you don’t naturally belong. Your position is only temporarily defensible militarily but ethically and morally indefensible. As de clerk realized, apartheid which is similar to what the tc are trying to do in Cyprus, was only temporary and created a never ending spiral of conflict and poverty, even among the whites that were also on the receiving end of reprehensible government policy.

The need for absolute control resulted in a loss of control and insecurity. Who would have thought it. Look at erdogan. :lol:

The smart amongst you did and will adapt and even then, few could compete with the economic prosperity of the Gc. still it will be hard in the “trnc”. Not much will change. Perhaps this is why most tc left Cyprus after the Turkish invasion.

Same shit in Kosovo and Albania, they ended up with their own states, but many of them want to leave. They are kind of stuck in a shitty political system and a lack of opportunity. :roll:

The even smarter simply went to turkey before 1960. They didn’t get their spirit poisoned for the last 50 years and probably feel like they are in a society where they belong.

Life is easier when you are not constantly trying to swim up stream...

But hey, talking with you is like talking to a deaf person.
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Re: two state solution

Postby B25 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:42 pm

Just going to put this here. Exactly what the Turks are trying to do.
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Re: two state solution

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:18 am

B25 wrote:Just going to put this here. Exactly what the Turks are trying to do.

tcs and terggs just want whats theirs. you and the griiks on the other hand want the lot. griiks claim 97% of the aegean seabed and gc are caliming about 85%. enna bgahede anan mega goullouring djithgosas dje na isihasede.
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Re: two state solution

Postby Maximus » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:09 am

Lordo wrote:
B25 wrote:Just going to put this here. Exactly what the Turks are trying to do.

tcs and terggs just want whats theirs. you and the griiks on the other hand want the lot. griiks claim 97% of the aegean seabed and gc are caliming about 85%. enna bgahede anan mega goullouring djithgosas dje na isihasede.


:lol:

Do you go to your bank with a gun to withdraw your money out or just with your card and documents.

You are not that smart, just talking rubbish now.

You can not negotiate with people that say, what is mine is mine and what is yours is also mine.

Take a look, this is cyprus’s Recognized eez.
http://www.cna.org.cy/WebNews-en.aspx?a ... f6a6b3aaaf

Now having seen that, the puppet administration of the “trnc” are trying to reduce cyprus’s Eez by half to give it to turkey. Like the occupied land in the north. What a bunch of Cypriot wannabes..... :roll:
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Re: two state solution

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:23 am

...what can be more true than what Erdogan said about the "Cypriot Turks"; they are, as you interpreted it Lordo, servant-slaves, and as was translated to English at the time, parasites.

When it comes to their betrayal, it will not be hard. Erdogan needs Cyprus, and Greece, as allies, strong partners in an alliance which endures; this is natural. And despite the preparations for war, and his intentions which include expansion, a small change in intentions may include recognition of Cypriots, as Cypriots: an end to the notion of "Them", instead an "Us", is as possible.

Turkish Cypriots, like Greek Cypriots, will feel a great burden lifted from their lives, when they are Free from their exploitation as, "Greeks", and, as "Turks". An end to this enmity if it happens in Cyprus, will no doubt provide Hope to those in Turkey who have found themselves, most recently, as Turks, identified as not "Turkish", as well. Erdogan's Legacy in effect rests Internationally, either in infamy, or a Peace maker, greater than Ataturk, to the Turkish People themselves. Yet it all starts in Cyprus, visa free travel, the Aegean, Syria, (Iran, Iraq), Israel, Egypt, issues to name a few, where they may end in Cyprus too.
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Re: two state solution

Postby Lordo » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:47 pm

thats becasue he is full of shit. he does not recognise how much blood he is sucking aout the the tcs. he is the parasite that ur gc friends are imposing on us. we need an agreement to get rid of them but we are not going to replace one blood sucker for another. we want to run our own affairs, or is that too much to ask.

with or without bbf we shall be free.
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Re: two state solution

Postby B25 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:00 pm

Lordo wrote: we want to run our own affairs, or is that too much to ask.


Sure, take the 18%, adjust the coast line accordingly, build a fucking 50m high wall and stay the fuck out of the rest of Cyprus. Then you can run your own affairs on your own lands and together with your motherland Turkey live happily ever after.

Otherwise you have no fucking chance. Hade assirktir.
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Re: two state solution

Postby Maximus » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:49 pm

I just find bordo’s inverted narratives amazing,

He accuses others of the things his side is doing.

WTF.....
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Re: two state solution

Postby Oceanside50 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:49 pm

Loose Federation is what’s been on the table since 75. Weak central government with limited powers.. re read Annan
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