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[Paphitis]

there are some people that should not have access to the internet

Norway has full access to the single market, and very limited barriers to trade with the EU.
In return it makes substantial contributions to the EU budget, and has to follow most EU rules and laws. ...
Norway is not part of the EU's Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) or the Common Fisheries Policy (CFP)

why the fak would eu give us a free trade deal , whats the matter with the brexiteers, oh i know they have no fakin brians. the scull cavity is empty.

Switzerland is also in the single market with the EU which the 4 freedoms apply, and they are part of the Schengen but not an EU member state. UK wanted to be in the single market with the EU after Brexit, but did not want the 4 freedoms and the EU said, “no way, José”.

Well no deal BREXIT it will be then.

I can see it from Britain’s side of the fence. I wouldn’t want the 4 freedoms either. I like Australia’s point based system and strong borders. You keep the 4 freedoms to yourselves Thanks!

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Actually Australia would be lucky to have 4 freedoms and a single market with the EU since Australia needs no less than 100 million more people to develop the country to slowly start becoming an economic powerhouse.

No I am sorry, but Australia is lucky because we are a million miles away from the EU and their "4 freedoms"

As for a single market, we have zero tariff trade with so many countries - China, USA, South Korea, Japan, India, and I also believe with the EU.

Australia is an economic powerhouse and we have a way of life that is superior to any in the EU and as such we would like to protect that way of life, worker conditions and also our national identity. We are at the very least the second strongest economy among the OECD. Use to be noumero uno until Trump came along and toppled us from first place.

I do not believe in economic development at the expense of everything else - including our way of life, family and traditional values.

You keep that disease in the EU.

Thank GOD we have a massive moat and a strong Navy to boot.

[Kikapu]

there are some people that should not have access to the internet

Norway has full access to the single market, and very limited barriers to trade with the EU.
In return it makes substantial contributions to the EU budget, and has to follow most EU rules and laws. ...
Norway is not part of the EU's Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) or the Common Fisheries Policy (CFP)

why the fak would eu give us a free trade deal , whats the matter with the brexiteers, oh i know they have no fakin brians. the scull cavity is empty.

Switzerland is also in the single market with the EU which the 4 freedoms apply, and they are part of the Schengen but not an EU member state. UK wanted to be in the single market with the EU after Brexit, but did not want the 4 freedoms and the EU said, “no way, José”.

Well no deal BREXIT it will be then.

I can see it from Britain’s side of the fence. I wouldn’t want the 4 freedoms either. I like Australia’s point based system and strong borders. You keep the 4 freedoms to yourselves Thanks!

i
Actually Australia would be lucky to have 4 freedoms and a single market with the EU since Australia needs no less than 100 million more people to develop the country to slowly start becoming an economic powerhouse.

No I am sorry, but Australia is lucky because we are a million miles away from the EU and their "4 freedoms"

As for a single market, we have zero tariff trade with so many countries - China, USA, South Korea, Japan, India, and I also believe with the EU.

Australia is an economic powerhouse and we have a way of life that is superior to any in the EU and as such we would like to protect that way of life, worker conditions and also our national identity. We are at the very least the second strongest economy among the OECD. Use to be noumero uno until Trump came along and toppled us from first place.

I do not believe in economic development at the expense of everything else - including our way of life, family and traditional values.

You keep that disease in the EU.

Thank GOD we have a massive moat and a strong Navy to boot.

No problem. You wouldn’t have many takers anyway, to leave Europe for Australia. Not that they wouldn’t enjoy being there, it’s just that it is too far away to leave everything they know. Perhaps the remainders might move there to get away from the Brexiteers!

[Pyrpolizer]

40 billion is chicken feed Pyro. That’s not a consideration. Britain is a 4 trillion dollar economy. It’s 1% of GDP.

Britain puts in about 40 billion every year, as a net contributor to the EU. The U.K. has not made any issue with regard to that amount of money.

That is their final contribution.

The only issue seems to be the Irish Border. This is the reason why Parliament has rejected the EU offer.

This is why Britain is now prepared to BREXIT with no deal.

You think so??
Silly me, and I thought they were leaving to save the estimated 8-9 billion of their net contribution for their NHS.
Whereas with this so called "free trade deal" will have to pay about the same net amount upto July 2020, and for
whatever period the deal is extended, having to abide to a lot of EU laws to which they will have no say, etc etc.
Like I said it's about the same deal as that of Norway. Are you sure this what they want?

Answering my own question, yes I agree with you,they prefer to leave with no deal at all.

[Paphitis]

Switzerland is also in the single market with the EU which the 4 freedoms apply, and they are part of the Schengen but not an EU member state. UK wanted to be in the single market with the EU after Brexit, but did not want the 4 freedoms and the EU said, “no way, José”.

Well no deal BREXIT it will be then.

I can see it from Britain’s side of the fence. I wouldn’t want the 4 freedoms either. I like Australia’s point based system and strong borders. You keep the 4 freedoms to yourselves Thanks!

i
Actually Australia would be lucky to have 4 freedoms and a single market with the EU since Australia needs no less than 100 million more people to develop the country to slowly start becoming an economic powerhouse.

No I am sorry, but Australia is lucky because we are a million miles away from the EU and their "4 freedoms"

As for a single market, we have zero tariff trade with so many countries - China, USA, South Korea, Japan, India, and I also believe with the EU.

Australia is an economic powerhouse and we have a way of life that is superior to any in the EU and as such we would like to protect that way of life, worker conditions and also our national identity. We are at the very least the second strongest economy among the OECD. Use to be noumero uno until Trump came along and toppled us from first place.

I do not believe in economic development at the expense of everything else - including our way of life, family and traditional values.

You keep that disease in the EU.

Thank GOD we have a massive moat and a strong Navy to boot.

No problem. You wouldn’t have many takers anyway, to leave Europe for Australia. Not that they wouldn’t enjoy being there, it’s just that it is too far away to leave everything they know. Perhaps the remainders might move there to get away from the Brexiteers!

You reckon? We have thousands every year coming from the EU - mostly UK, Germany, Ireland, and a bit from Italy and Greece.

Been to Europe Kikapu and been to every single Australian City and State and I reckon Australia is pretty hard to beat in terms of quality of life, raising family, safety, opportunity, and our cities are pretty amazing. Have not been to a European city I would prefer over Melbourne, Adelaide or Sydney. Or even Brisbane or Perth. Doesn’t mean I don’t like European cities. I love them. I even like Athens because I remember having wild times there as a very young man at the Paraliako Bouzoukia among other shenanigans which were not G rated.

Having said that, I could move to Greece easily one day. Only for a different type of lifestyle. Yeh, I could swap Adelaide or Sydney for let’s say Zakinthos or Lefkada. But that is because one day I would want to withdraw from the fast lane and slow right down.

Kikapu, this EU project is going to destroy countries. And there is something very seedy about it.

This video explains my viewpoint accurately.



Of course, this is the popular viewpoint. Make no mistake about it. It is popular inthe EU and Britain will not be the only one. Italy is on the verge. So too is Hungary and Austria.

It’s also popular in the USA, Australia, Canada and so forth. This is why you have BREXIT, Trump, ScoMo, and the rise of right wing populism in Austria, Greece, Italy and Hungary.

Do not confuse my type of conservatism with capitalism. Because normal right wing parties and the left have betrayed our values and way of life. We are right wing and conservative but we want strong borders and fairness for the worker. We don’t want to see immigration for the capitalists to exploit the worker which it seems the EU does. We don’t want to see thousands of people compromised because they don’t have an education and no manufacturing jobs because factories are employing South East Asians on money that is below the poverty line.

This pyramid scheme is going to collapse because the masses are waking up. Get ready for the floodgates to open. Italy could have a referendum on the EU very soon.

There are areas in Athens, Paris, Brussels, and Berlin which are literally unsafe thanks to your 4 Freedoms. You have developing into nice little shit holes. Thanks to your 4 Freedoms.

[Paphitis]

40 billion is chicken feed Pyro. That’s not a consideration. Britain is a 4 trillion dollar economy. It’s 1% of GDP.

Britain puts in about 40 billion every year, as a net contributor to the EU. The U.K. has not made any issue with regard to that amount of money.

That is their final contribution.

The only issue seems to be the Irish Border. This is the reason why Parliament has rejected the EU offer.

This is why Britain is now prepared to BREXIT with no deal.

You think so??
Silly me, and I thought they were leaving to save the estimated 8-9 billion of their net contribution for their NHS.
Whereas with this so called "free trade deal" will have to pay about the same net amount upto July 2020, and for
whatever period the deal is extended, having to abide to a lot of EU laws to which they will have no say, etc etc.
Like I said it's about the same deal as that of Norway. Are you sure this what they want?

Answering my own question, yes I agree with you,they prefer to leave with no deal at all.

The NHS is one factor. I am not familiar with the figures but Britain does have the best health coverage in the EU resulting in some Health Tourism that has cost the British Government some money.

Also, the UK must make a net contribution of about 39 to 40 billion each year to prop up the EU machine.

But even that wasn’t the biggest issue.

The biggest issue is immigration, and preventing some insufferable foreigners from Brussels and the EU mandating laws like they have ultimate authority over Britain and its people, businesses, and corporate world.

[Paphitis]

It’s time for Britain to put the locks on the front door and turn on their security system.

[Pyrpolizer]

The NHS is one factor. I am not familiar with the figures but Britain does have the best health coverage in the EU resulting in some Health Tourism that has cost the British Government some money.

Also, the UK must make a net contribution of about 39 to 40 billion each year to prop up the EU machine.

But even that wasn’t the biggest issue.

The biggest issue is immigration, and preventing some insufferable foreigners from Brussels and the EU mandating laws like they have ultimate authority over Britain and its people, businesses, and corporate world.

Paphiti didn't they teach you anything about accuracy in the aviation school?
400% off should be enough crash a plane in a sec, no?
Review your numbers for CS.... we are at the internet age not the kafene age

[Paphitis]

The NHS is one factor. I am not familiar with the figures but Britain does have the best health coverage in the EU resulting in some Health Tourism that has cost the British Government some money.

Also, the UK must make a net contribution of about 39 to 40 billion each year to prop up the EU machine.

But even that wasn’t the biggest issue.

The biggest issue is immigration, and preventing some insufferable foreigners from Brussels and the EU mandating laws like they have ultimate authority over Britain and its people, businesses, and corporate world.

Paphiti didn't they teach you anything about accuracy in the aviation school?
400% off should be enough crash a plane in a sec, no?
Review your numbers for CS.... we are at the internet age not the kafene age

What are you talking about?

I told you it isn’t about the numbers. I have no clue what the real cost to the NHS. I just know that was a campaign ploy by the BREXITEERS to attract votes. That’s politics.

BREXIT was never really about the cost to the NHS or its net contribution to the EU. It’s obvious what BREXIT is all about. Brits DO NOT want to outsource their Government to the EU. They just want Free Trade but none of the other crap.

You mentioned that Brtain had an obligation of 40 billion not me.

[Lordo]

40 billion is chicken feed Pyro. That’s not a consideration. Britain is a 4 trillion dollar economy. It’s 1% of GDP.

Britain puts in about 40 billion every year, as a net contributor to the EU. The U.K. has not made any issue with regard to that amount of money.

That is their final contribution.

The only issue seems to be the Irish Border. This is the reason why Parliament has rejected the EU offer.

This is why Britain is now prepared to BREXIT with no deal.

You think so??
Silly me, and I thought they were leaving to save the estimated 8-9 billion of their net contribution for their NHS.
Whereas with this so called "free trade deal" will have to pay about the same net amount upto July 2020, and for
whatever period the deal is extended, having to abide to a lot of EU laws to which they will have no say, etc etc.
Like I said it's about the same deal as that of Norway. Are you sure this what they want?

Answering my own question, yes I agree with you,they prefer to leave with no deal at all.

The NHS is one factor. I am not familiar with the figures but Britain does have the best health coverage in the EU resulting in some Health Tourism that has cost the British Government some money.

Also, the UK must make a net contribution of about 39 to 40 billion each year to prop up the EU machine.

But even that wasn’t the biggest issue.

The biggest issue is immigration, and preventing some insufferable foreigners from Brussels and the EU mandating laws like they have ultimate authority over Britain and its people, businesses, and corporate world.

eu contribution has nothing to do with propping up anything you stupid asshole. if you are a member of a club and enjoy the benfits of the club, you pay a membership fee. the only difference here is that eu membership fee has a socialist aspect, the richer you are the more you contribute and the poorer you are, you may not even contribue any and in fact you may have a net gain. its called social economics. it applies in all civilised countries. those who earn more are supposed to pay more and those who are unable to pay will recieve assistance. according to you people who pay their taxes are propping up the government. i can't believe you bacame like this, you must have been born stupid.

The size of member states' payments to the EU budget is broadly dependent on the size of their economy. This is because the largest component of each country's contribution is a flat payment equivalent to a fixed proportion of its gross national income (GNI) - 0.59% in 2007.

the reason each country may recieve money rather than pay anything is becasue they are so poor that the grants they are allowed to claim is greater than their contributions. this is civilisation asshole.

[Paphitis]

40 billion is chicken feed Pyro. That’s not a consideration. Britain is a 4 trillion dollar economy. It’s 1% of GDP.

Britain puts in about 40 billion every year, as a net contributor to the EU. The U.K. has not made any issue with regard to that amount of money.

That is their final contribution.

The only issue seems to be the Irish Border. This is the reason why Parliament has rejected the EU offer.

This is why Britain is now prepared to BREXIT with no deal.

You think so??
Silly me, and I thought they were leaving to save the estimated 8-9 billion of their net contribution for their NHS.
Whereas with this so called "free trade deal" will have to pay about the same net amount upto July 2020, and for
whatever period the deal is extended, having to abide to a lot of EU laws to which they will have no say, etc etc.
Like I said it's about the same deal as that of Norway. Are you sure this what they want?

Answering my own question, yes I agree with you,they prefer to leave with no deal at all.

The NHS is one factor. I am not familiar with the figures but Britain does have the best health coverage in the EU resulting in some Health Tourism that has cost the British Government some money.

Also, the UK must make a net contribution of about 39 to 40 billion each year to prop up the EU machine.

But even that wasn’t the biggest issue.

The biggest issue is immigration, and preventing some insufferable foreigners from Brussels and the EU mandating laws like they have ultimate authority over Britain and its people, businesses, and corporate world.

eu contribution has nothing to do with propping up anything you stupid asshole. if you are a member of a club and enjoy the benfits of the club, you pay a membership fee. the only difference here is that eu membership fee has a socialist aspect, the richer you are the more you contribute and the poorer you are, you may not even contribue any and in fact you may have a net gain. its called social economics. it applies in all civilised countries. those who earn more are supposed to pay more and those who are unable to pay will recieve assistance. according to you people who pay their taxes are propping up the government. i can't believe you bacame like this, you must have been born stupid.

The size of member states' payments to the EU budget is broadly dependent on the size of their economy. This is because the largest component of each country's contribution is a flat payment equivalent to a fixed proportion of its gross national income (GNI) - 0.59% in 2007.

the reason each country may recieve money rather than pay anything is becasue they are so poor that the grants they are allowed to claim is greater than their contributions. this is civilisation asshole.

Really!

Well Britain wants out of this club! They are an independent country after all aren't they. The people had their say, didn't they?

It just wants to be another Canada, Norway and Switzerland and have free trade, total autonomy and you can keep your 4 freedoms benefits for yourselves.Leave that to the club members.