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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 am

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:the US pays all medical attention to patients suffering from Chinese Flu.


No it does not.

Paphitis wrote: For a family, it costs a bit under $2000 USD for a family of 4. Covers everything from dental, hospital cover, pharmaceuticals, physio etc etc.


and from people who actually have some idea of what they are talking about

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/23/heres-h ... -care.html

Insurance companies need to make profit and year on year increasing profit. That is all money that is not spent on healthcare, yours or any one else's. Private hospitals need to make profit and year on year increasing profit. That is all money that is not spent on healthcare, yours or any one else's.

Be treated by an entity that is only doing so in order to make profit or be treated by an entity who's only purpose is to treat you. I know which sounds better to me.


Sorry but you have not stated what these figures are.

Just because you have insurance, doesn't mean you don't have to pay other fees and alsio does this factor in what uninsured people are forced to pay?

I can provide a brochure, from a US insurer (albeit a corporate deal plan) which explains all about the private insurance schemes of the US, what they provide and how much it costs. It isn't a big cost. For $50 USD or under, you can cover a family of 4, but there are co-payments on top which are minor. If you are hospitalized, you have to still contribute to some of the cost.

In Australia, the copayment I have set is about $50 per night in hospital. But the advantage is no wait times, your choice of private hospital and your choice of surgeon and a number of other perks.

If you bung your knee and need surgery, you go straight in.

I'm a big supporter of this type of insurance, and I have been paying it all my life.

The big mistake people make is assuming that when a State provides "free" health coverage, they are under the misconception that it is free. It isn't free. Tax payers are paying far more than the price of a insurance policy for this "free"cover. In the US, tax payers don't pay it which is one of the reasons why tax is low there. Hence the necessity to pay for insurance to cover yourself. The only difference in the US system is that there is no safety net.

So you have to watch your pennies. In my opinion, insurance is the first bill that should be paid. Especially with children. they cover everything, down to orthodontics. Since having children I have used them a few times.

I've paid it for years and never made a single claim, so insurers are making a pretty penny out of this business. They are profitable. Although the one I pay is not for profit and industry union based.

And another thing insurers do is that they take a policy out themselves to cover their business. they get a policy from another underwriter. They do have it well sussed
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:43 am

Paphitis wrote:
the US pays all medical attention to patients suffering from Chinese Flu."

Chinese flu ? Isn't this what Trump calls ?
The WHO has never called Corona virus Chinese, as well as no other world leader.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:41 am

Paphitis:
Fake news!

Really? The MSM is in a dreadful state then as they all have the same story. You are too quick to condemn anything as fake if it’s from a source you don’t use. No wonder you have so many holes in your information!

Danni Askini - She had COVID-19, but no insurance. Her treatment cost $34,972.
[url]
https://time.com/5806312/coronavirus-treatment-cost/[/url]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 15641.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146875/Uninsured-woman-cancer-hit-35K-hospital-bill-testing-positive-coronavirus.html
[url]
https://www.insider.com/woman-high-bill ... ent-2020-3[/url]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/patriciagbarnes/2020/03/20/on-the-frontlines-of-covid-19-with-no-health-insurance/

Here she is actually discussing it on video ......
[url]
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/coronavi ... i-BB11Ilx2[/url]

So, WRONG ..... again!


So is the rest of your opinion ...... you should thank your lucky stars you didn’t get the job in the US ..... you would have been right up shit creek, with your rose coloured illusions of living the American Dream ! :roll:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:51 am

Paphitis wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:the US pays all medical attention to patients suffering from Chinese Flu.


No it does not.

Paphitis wrote: For a family, it costs a bit under $2000 USD for a family of 4. Covers everything from dental, hospital cover, pharmaceuticals, physio etc etc.


and from people who actually have some idea of what they are talking about

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/23/heres-h ... -care.html

Insurance companies need to make profit and year on year increasing profit. That is all money that is not spent on healthcare, yours or any one else's. Private hospitals need to make profit and year on year increasing profit. That is all money that is not spent on healthcare, yours or any one else's.

Be treated by an entity that is only doing so in order to make profit or be treated by an entity who's only purpose is to treat you. I know which sounds better to me.


Sorry but you have not stated what these figures are.

Just because you have insurance, doesn't mean you don't have to pay other fees and alsio does this factor in what uninsured people are forced to pay?

I can provide a brochure, from a US insurer (albeit a corporate deal plan) which explains all about the private insurance schemes of the US, what they provide and how much it costs. It isn't a big cost. For $50 USD or under, you can cover a family of 4, but there are co-payments on top which are minor. If you are hospitalized, you have to still contribute to some of the cost.

In Australia, the copayment I have set is about $50 per night in hospital. But the advantage is no wait times, your choice of private hospital and your choice of surgeon and a number of other perks.

If you bung your knee and need surgery, you go straight in.

I'm a big supporter of this type of insurance, and I have been paying it all my life.

The big mistake people make is assuming that when a State provides "free" health coverage, they are under the misconception that it is free. It isn't free. Tax payers are paying far more than the price of a insurance policy for this "free"cover. In the US, tax payers don't pay it which is one of the reasons why tax is low there. Hence the necessity to pay for insurance to cover yourself. The only difference in the US system is that there is no safety net.

So you have to watch your pennies. In my opinion, insurance is the first bill that should be paid. Especially with children. they cover everything, down to orthodontics. Since having children I have used them a few times.

I've paid it for years and never made a single claim, so insurers are making a pretty penny out of this business. They are profitable. Although the one I pay is not for profit and industry union based.

And another thing insurers do is that they take a policy out themselves to cover their business. they get a policy from another underwriter. They do have it well sussed


But in Cyprus I get all you do ..... and as a pensioner I don't have to pay for the service ..... the UK NHS does. I pay Eu3 to see my Doctor, Eu6 to see a specialist, Eu1 for a blood test ..... any specialist of my choice! One phone call for the first free appointment. I can even go anywhere in the EU if Cyprus does not have the specialist/treatment I need ..... they even pay air fare and accommodation. I don't pay any tax either! :roll:

I think the system here is better than yours ........ I had a cataract operation a few weeks ago .... for Eu6 for 4 visits and the operation. :wink:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:58 am

miltiades wrote:Paphitis wrote:
the US pays all medical attention to patients suffering from Chinese Flu."

Chinese flu ? Isn't this what Trump calls ?
The WHO has never called Corona virus Chinese, as well as no other world leader.


yes, just like Spanish Flu.

Even the media were calling it the Wuhan Virus but since Trump called it Chinese Flu, it's suddenly racist!

Chinese Flu, Chinese Flu, Chinese Flu! :lol:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:03 am

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:
Fake news!

Really? The MSM is in a dreadful state then as they all have the same story. You are too quick to condemn anything as fake if it’s from a source you don’t use. No wonder you have so many holes in your information!

Danni Askini - She had COVID-19, but no insurance. Her treatment cost $34,972.
[url]
https://time.com/5806312/coronavirus-treatment-cost/[/url]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 15641.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146875/Uninsured-woman-cancer-hit-35K-hospital-bill-testing-positive-coronavirus.html
[url]
https://www.insider.com/woman-high-bill ... ent-2020-3[/url]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/patriciagbarnes/2020/03/20/on-the-frontlines-of-covid-19-with-no-health-insurance/

Here she is actually discussing it on video ......
[url]
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/coronavi ... i-BB11Ilx2[/url]

So, WRONG ..... again!


So is the rest of your opinion ...... you should thank your lucky stars you didn’t get the job in the US ..... you would have been right up shit creek, with your rose coloured illusions of living the American Dream ! :roll:


Sorry, but Trump has already said that all Americans will be treated for Chinese Flu or Chinese Flu like symptoms free of charge.

I do not believe any of the above reports. The media distort EVERYTHING. Finding a person who had to pay 30K or more for medical treatment in the US, isn't an uncommon thing. Australian citizens have been caught out regularly.

I would never travel to the US without Travel Insurance, and hence I will never be left with a hefty medical bill if let's say I had an accident and broke my leg. I would pay peanuts.

I would never live in the US without taking a Private Health Insurance Policy for my entire family either. Which again means I will never pay such bills either.

When it comes to the USA, the remedy is very simple. people must be responsible for themselves. there are low taxes, so the onus is on individuals and employers providing health Cover.

So in the end, there really is no accounting for people's stupidity! :roll:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... paid-leave

Put it this way, if I was seriously ill, I would far more prefer to be in a US Hospital than a Cypriot one, and with a few dollars in insurance, I can have access to the best medical facilities they have without paying anywhere near 30K. All you pay is a levy of $500 or $1000 and the insurer picks up the rest of the tab.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:39 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:Paphitis wrote:
the US pays all medical attention to patients suffering from Chinese Flu."

Chinese flu ? Isn't this what Trump calls ?
The WHO has never called Corona virus Chinese, as well as no other world leader.


yes, just like Spanish Flu.

Even the media were calling it the Wuhan Virus but since Trump called it Chinese Flu, it's suddenly racist!

Chinese Flu, Chinese Flu, Chinese Flu! :lol:

Plonker, co tact the world health organization and tell them since the US POUTTOS and the Kangaroo idiot calls it that they too must
What a fucking idiot you are.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:43 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:Paphitis wrote:
the US pays all medical attention to patients suffering from Chinese Flu."

Chinese flu ? Isn't this what Trump calls ?
The WHO has never called Corona virus Chinese, as well as no other world leader.


yes, just like Spanish Flu.

Even the media were calling it the Wuhan Virus but since Trump called it Chinese Flu, it's suddenly racist!

Chinese Flu, Chinese Flu, Chinese Flu! :lol:

Plonker, co tact the world health organization and tell them since the US POUTTOS and the Kangaroo idiot calls it that they too must
What a fucking idiot you are.


And one more thing, when you are lining up on the street for your bowl of soup, then you will be appreciating some straight talk rather than beating around the bush.

What Trump is saying as the POTUS, is definitely legit. Everyone else prefers to suck dicks and be politically correct, however, no matter how much you try to polish a turd, it's still shit.

Some of the first countries that will be begging for bailouts is Cyprus and Greece. After that, probably Italy and Spain. Some other countries like the US, China, Canada, UK, Australia will come out the other end and survive.

China is responsible for this. No matter how you try to polish the turd. and in turn, they are responsible for inflicting a lot of economic pain and mayhem on many countries, and millions of people unemployed with no income.

And no matter what people say, it will be the poor and vulnerable that will never forget it and blame China which is fair and square where the blame belongs. What they have done should not be forgiven. The didn't handle the situation well.

So, you can thank China for the Chinese Flu and potentially for your next bailouts and it isn't going to be pretty.

Stay safe from Chinese Flu! :lol:

Some straight talking from trump can do you some good. Listen to the great man. He is all you got in this world of bullshit and polishing turds and sucking dicks. :wink:

I for one am very happy that countries like the US and Australia are learning a big lesson here. It's an expensive lesson to learn, and it also involves extensive loss of life which is terrible, but now we have a chance to come through the other end better and stronger than ever before, by manufacturing essentials like Pharmaceuticals and other products at home rather than use cheap Chinese labour at the expense of jobs and our bio security. All the Pharmaceuticals are not Chinese either. they are usually US patented and only manufactured in China.

It looks like these lessons are sinking in as well thanks to Chinese Flu.

Trump is a very wise man. He is a winner.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:04 pm

Paphitis wrote:What Trump is saying as the POTUS, is definitely legit.


What he said one month ago

When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."


One month later and US has 86,000 known infected people.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:10 pm

But you thought he was an idiot a little while back. He is by far a bigger idiot than most, on the other hand Boris is the biggest Clown ever. Mostly idiots support both..
By the way, the USA economy isn't very encouraging for the rest of the world.
I wonder if POUTTOS does what he knows best, declare ...bankruptcy !!!
This virus hasn't yet touched the USA nor the UK for that. Lets see how it develops. Yoy may be out of a job soon :lol:
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