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Postby erolz66 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:07 pm

On the issue of confirmation bias more generally Tim, lets take a look at one example from Paphitis because often understanding is found by looking at extreme ends of spectrum and because he is big enough to take it.

When Paphitis links to a BBC article that explicitly says Australia was not the first country to impose a partial travel ban on non citizens travelling from china and uses it to prove his statement that Australia was the first country to do so, what do you see ? I see something akin to an extreme degree of confirmation bias. Am I the 'crazy one' here in seeing such ?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:11 pm

Kikapu wrote:
B25 wrote:
Too many reports flying around about this. The last one I read said that they did lab tests on what temp actually killed the virus and it reached, from memory, 90 DegC. The report concluded that they realise it was in a lab, but if in a lab it takes this level of temp to kill it, why not out of the lab.

I don't have the link, because I would need to hoard hundreds of links, i read them and move on trying to formulate a picture of what is going on.


B25, How can we achieve 90*C outside a lab to kill the virus? That is almost boiling point for water. Even in Death Valley, getting 50*C is not very common.


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2020 ... l-covid-19

Just one more thing 'we do not yet know' with any serious degree of certainty or scientific consensus as far as I can tell. What scares me more than not yet knowing is apparent 'certainty' in others that they in fact do know. Even more so if the apparent reason why they know for certain is because it is the opposite of what big pharma would like.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Cap » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:22 pm

This is stupid.
Covid-19 is less deadly than the Anatolian terrorists of 1974.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:30 pm

Cap wrote:This is stupid.
Covid-19 is less deadly than the Anatolian terrorists of 1974.


? Er not to just about everywhere in the world other than Cyprus ? Nor does it seem to me we can say so in the case of Cyprus, only that 'so far it is' ? Or am I not getting you ?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:When you fuck with nature it turns around and bites you on the bum…


You aint going to like the sound of this then

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... k-11976681

Clinical trials of a coronavirus vaccine will begin on people from Thursday, Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said.

The Oxford vaccine, called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19, is made from a harmless chimpanzee virus that has been genetically engineered to carry part of the coronavirus.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby B25 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:42 pm

Kikapu wrote:
B25 wrote:
Too many reports flying around about this. The last one I read said that they did lab tests on what temp actually killed the virus and it reached, from memory, 90 DegC. The report concluded that they realise it was in a lab, but if in a lab it takes this level of temp to kill it, why not out of the lab.

I don't have the link, because I would need to hoard hundreds of links, i read them and move on trying to formulate a picture of what is going on.


B25, How can we achieve 90*C outside a lab to kill the virus? That is almost boiling point for water. Even in Death Valley, getting 50*C is not very common.


Here:

https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-he ... us-1498074
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:45 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:When you fuck with nature it turns around and bites you on the bum…


You aint going to like the sound of this then

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... k-11976681

Clinical trials of a coronavirus vaccine will begin on people from Thursday, Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said.

The Oxford vaccine, called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19, is made from a harmless chimpanzee virus that has been genetically engineered to carry part of the coronavirus.

You do know what a "trial" is right? :)

Give me a whistle when they actually work...
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:47 pm

B25 wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
B25 wrote:
Too many reports flying around about this. The last one I read said that they did lab tests on what temp actually killed the virus and it reached, from memory, 90 DegC. The report concluded that they realise it was in a lab, but if in a lab it takes this level of temp to kill it, why not out of the lab.

I don't have the link, because I would need to hoard hundreds of links, i read them and move on trying to formulate a picture of what is going on.


B25, How can we achieve 90*C outside a lab to kill the virus? That is almost boiling point for water. Even in Death Valley, getting 50*C is not very common.


Here:

https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-he ... us-1498074

Great, 90*C hot showers until our skins fall off! :D
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:52 pm

Kikapu wrote:Great, 90*C hot showers until our skins fall off! :D

Even at water's boiling point it would "deactivate" the virus but it won't die! :lol:

So the scolding would be for nothing!
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:53 pm

I got a call about an hour ago, that my 68 year old brother in London with the coronavirus has finally been taken off the ventilator after 16 days and is able to breath on his own, but still asleep with oxygen mask on. He should wake up sometime tomorrow. Family very happy at last, but he will remain in the hospital for further 2-3 weeks longer to recover. :D
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