Cyprus-Forum.com

[Jery]

Just returned from a walk to Monte Juis in Barcelona but turned back because a pigeon crapped all over us.

PIGEON, MY ARSE! Some bastard sprayed us with false poo and he and his mate pretended to help us by offering us wipes etc. They were waiting for my wife to take off her shoulder bag to clean herself up but she hung on to it, they may have realised that the old git with her was a bit tougher than on first appearance (they were 40 -50 years old but smaller than me) and eventually left us alone. At first we thought it was a genuine assault by pigeons but our hotel confirmed that it's an old trick. So, be warned!

[CrookedRiverGuy]

I am no 'ologist but can you not catch this thing, like we must do with all other viruses, a 'little bit' and your immune system fights back? You then either avoid it completely or get a milder dose? If you completely avoid exposure .... then you have zero immunity except that which you inherited from your parents DNA/Genes?

You should compare it to being pregnant. Either you are or you aren't.

What will vary is the probably more random factor; how much are your body able to fight back. Elderly people and those with other underlying health conditions will be less able to fight back. Such are the terms until they manage to develop a vaccine.

[CrookedRiverGuy]

Just returned from a walk to Monte Juis in Barcelona but turned back because a pigeon crapped all over us.

PIGEON, MY ARSE! Some bastard sprayed us with false poo and he and his mate pretended to help us by offering us wipes etc. They were waiting for my wife to take off her shoulder bag to clean herself up but she hung on to it, they may have realised that the old git with her was a bit tougher than on first appearance (they were 40 -50 years old but smaller than me) and eventually left us alone. At first we thought it was a genuine assault by pigeons but our hotel confirmed that it's an old trick. So, be warned!

If there's is any justice in this world, they will soon have a fever.

Spain is closing its borders, right? How does this affect your return?

[Jery]

Just returned from a walk to Monte Juis in Barcelona but turned back because a pigeon crapped all over us.

PIGEON, MY ARSE! Some bastard sprayed us with false poo and he and his mate pretended to help us by offering us wipes etc. They were waiting for my wife to take off her shoulder bag to clean herself up but she hung on to it, they may have realised that the old git with her was a bit tougher than on first appearance (they were 40 -50 years old but smaller than me) and eventually left us alone. At first we thought it was a genuine assault by pigeons but our hotel confirmed that it's an old trick. So, be warned!

If there's is any justice in this world, they will soon have a fever.

Spain is closing its borders, right? How does this affect your return?

Changed flight from Wednesday to early Monday morning with Easyjet

[Kikapu]

Kikapu:

You can actually get a young person to go get your shopping for you once or twice a week for a fee. It will spare you and your wife to unnecessary exposure to the virus.

That is true but the problem I see is that if you avoid exposure completely then you will NEVER amass that degree of immunity you must have as the primary response of your immune system to disease and infections?

Surely all of us posses some immunity as we combat infections all the time. I am no 'ologist but can you not catch this thing, like we must do with all other viruses, a 'little bit' and your immune system fights back? You then either avoid it completely or get a milder dose? If you completely avoid exposure .... then you have zero immunity except that which you inherited from your parents DNA/Genes?

When I/we go out we chose quieter periods and now wear the blue rubber gloves, which we take of as we get in the car, bin when we get home and then wash our hands. Simple precautions and I don't think that to be OTT. We don't wear face masks, we keep our distance as far as possible from strangers but within reason.

So we are sensible and just try to avoid the obvious sources of infection ..... but we cannot avoid it completely.

Hopefully most of us have built a lot of immunity over the years to various viruses to assist us not to suffer too much with the present Coronavirus. It is just that, older aged people seems to be less protected than younger aged people despite years of immunity in their system.

[Kikapu]

Just returned from a walk to Monte Juis in Barcelona but turned back because a pigeon crapped all over us.

PIGEON, MY ARSE! Some bastard sprayed us with false poo and he and his mate pretended to help us by offering us wipes etc. They were waiting for my wife to take off her shoulder bag to clean herself up but she hung on to it, they may have realised that the old git with her was a bit tougher than on first appearance (they were 40 -50 years old but smaller than me) and eventually left us alone. At first we thought it was a genuine assault by pigeons but our hotel confirmed that it's an old trick. So, be warned!

There’s always an opportunist in times of crises. Fuckers.

[Robin Hood]

CRG:

You should compare it to being pregnant. Either you are or you aren't.

I think your analogy is wrong!

More like drinking alcohol! Say, you drink and as a drinker a couple of drinks doesn’t have a significant effect. I have the same couple of drinks and because I don’t drink the effect is far more pronounced ..... but the alcohol content is exactly the same ..... only the response is different because you have an ‘immunity’ that I don’t!

What will vary is the probably more random factor; how much are your body able to fight back. Elderly people and those with other underlying health conditions will be less able to fight back.

Isn’t that what I said? I have a strong immune system is spite of my age, so I would stand a better chance of surviving than someone half my age who was a smoker, a drinker, was overweight and had breathing problems. If my immune system functions I will be better equipped to fight back because the immune system IS what does the fighting.

I have never had the flu and having lived here for over 25 years I have only ever once had a cold and that was a very mild cold ...... so my immune system seems to be preventing me from catching the full version. So we must have some form of natural resistance to the cold virus which prevents the full impact of the virus on people like me whilst some, much younger, get knocked off their feet by the identical virus.

I don’t know the reason why .... that is why I proffered the hypothesis.

Such are the terms until they manage to develop a vaccine.

They have been looking for a vaccine for the common cold virus since I can remember ..... and they still don’t have one. Even HIV, although they can control it, still has no vaccine! So don’t hold your breath for a Covid-19 vaccine!

[CrookedRiverGuy]

I think your analogy is wrong!

More like drinking alcohol! Say, you drink and as a drinker a couple of drinks doesn’t have a significant effect. I have the same couple of drinks and because I don’t drink the effect is far more pronounced ..... but the alcohol content is exactly the same ..... only the response is different because you have an ‘immunity’ that I don’t!

I have a strong immune system is spite of my age, so I would stand a better chance of surviving than someone half my age who was a smoker, a drinker, was overweight and had breathing problems. If my immune system functions I will be better equipped to fight back because the immune system IS what does the fighting.

Well, your aren't spot on either: to follow your analogy; there is no way you can control how much alcohol that is poured into you. Rather you take one drop of alcohol and it multiplies and multiplies until your immune system manage to kick back.

Sadly:

I am no 'ologist

so you have no idea on how your body will react to a new strain of virus. What you claim is what you wish, you even may be better off than someone half your age, but you will never KNOW

[CrookedRiverGuy]

I have a strong immune system is spite of my age, so I would stand a better chance of surviving than someone half my age who was a smoker, a drinker, was overweight and had breathing problems. If my immune system functions I will be better equipped to fight back because the immune system IS what does the fighting.

Here's some excerpt from a testimony of a fellow countryman I just read
(I didn't bother to translate myself, so blame Google translate if parts are awkward)

The 48-year-old has been on isolation for six days. Today he is discharged from the hospital. He and his girlfriend are asking people to take the quarantine rules seriously. - It's no joke.

The 48-year-old came from the Alps via Munich and fell ill as soon as he returned home. He was the first confirmed corona-infected person to be admitted to the university hospital.

- It's been a nightmare. Several times I have thought that this no longer works. I realize that it gets a bit utopian for other people, there aren't that many who get hit so seriously. But that is no joke, says the man.

- I am fit and exercise four or five times a week, I say, the man said.

- I have no respiratory or other diseases. Still, I was completely knocked out, he says.

- If my mother had got this here, she would not have survived. I am 100 percent sure, since it has been so critical of myself, says the 48-year-old.

...so RH, even if you exercise 10+ days a week, your argument still might fell through

[Robin Hood]

I have a strong immune system is spite of my age, so I would stand a better chance of surviving than someone half my age who was a smoker, a drinker, was overweight and had breathing problems. If my immune system functions I will be better equipped to fight back because the immune system IS what does the fighting.

Here's some excerpt from a testimony of a fellow countryman I just read
(I didn't bother to translate myself, so blame Google translate if parts are awkward)

The 48-year-old has been on isolation for six days. Today he is discharged from the hospital. He and his girlfriend are asking people to take the quarantine rules seriously. - It's no joke.

The 48-year-old came from the Alps via Munich and fell ill as soon as he returned home. He was the first confirmed corona-infected person to be admitted to the university hospital.

- It's been a nightmare. Several times I have thought that this no longer works. I realize that it gets a bit utopian for other people, there aren't that many who get hit so seriously. But that is no joke, says the man.

- I am fit and exercise four or five times a week, I say, the man said.

- I have no respiratory or other diseases. Still, I was completely knocked out, he says.

- If my mother had got this here, she would not have survived. I am 100 percent sure, since it has been so critical of myself, says the 48-year-old.

...so RH, even if you exercise 10+ days a week, your argument still might fell through

My argument was presented as an hypothesis and from that a probability as we don't know why some, even fit people, are affected whilst others who are older or less fit, do not respond so dramatically to the infection.

Nothing is for sure .... we all take our chances and should just take sensible precautions to prevent catching it, that is all we can do.

BTW 1: The Churches attitude to all this does not help! The population are still kissing icons and taking the 'blood of Christ' from a communal Chalice! The suggestion this could lead to spreading the virus has been dismissed ...... by the Archbishop!

BTW 2: We went shopping yesterday morning and all the stores we went to in Limssol were almost devoid of people and the shelves were full. Our last stop was on the way back, in Episkopi (Lysiotis) and the car park was absolutely heaving! The supermarket was also very crowded. Mainly women with children, doing the shopping, some working in pairs and some even pushing two trollies heaped with toilet paper, tissues, pasta, rice, dozens of tins of food and loads of pre-cooked meals. The shelves were beginning to noticeably empty.

The locals, including ex-pat residents, were bemused at the frenzy and carried on shopping as normal .......... and all these women panic shopping were wives from the UK's Episkopi Garrison! I thought the Bases had their own Supermarkets?