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Re: Turkey is bankrupt

Postby Lordo » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:04 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...in any case, the great experiment is over, the Turkish people did not as was expected improve their productivity to such a degree that they would overcome the "forces" against them. (In affect "Turkishness" is not superior to the "Others".)

...and as a result, 'we' may see Erdogan as a different person, with his changing intentions; not so much for "Turkishness" but for Turkey.

Indeed, in this part of the world one may ask how low can it go. On the other hand it is in moments like these where Ignorance is overcome, that change is imminent and less likely to be resisted. Thus i am hopeful. We are by nature loving creatures, despite evil intent such intentions change, even those who plunder murderously shameless of the mayhem it leaves behind have compassion for their child or their mom. What more is there to gain from thoughtlessness, that is the question, it is a matter of (political) economics, and it has become an existential question too.

Yet, the new thinking that has evolved from the Modern Age remains ignored, and the threats now are far greater than Nations and their wars; "It" may stop very soon to hold the agenda, 'we' may live in Peace as cooperators instead: this would be progress (even/still under "Such" control).

Unlike Putin, Erdogan is not trying to bring back a past glory; he wants to become bigger than it, giving him as an autocratic leader intellectually speaking a whole lot more leeway to be the top "It" if he were to bring "Them" together in accord.

...indeed, it is the Problem in all this, what divides us and how. That first as Citizens of the World we may demonstrate, as Individuals, (having the same needs) our trust and respect toward each other. And as equals thusly recognising that as Persons and as majorities the same Goodwill and trust is demonstrated toward minorities that live among such constituencies.

(but i am way off topic, or not.)

Erdogan was never experimenting RW, he was trying to remove secularity from politics. In some ways he has succeded because the Military , police, and the justice system is in his hands and he has also changed the system so President can do anythong he wants, even cancel elections if he does not like the result.

The topic here is Turkey is bankrupt. In reality Turkey is no more bankrupt than any other country on ratio of debt to GDP. Of course She is too useful for America so she will not allow Turkey to fail just like Israel. Without American aid both countries are in the shit.

Another issue is inflation. The question is what kind of inflation is it and should he have used interest rates increases to solve it. One thing for certain interest rates increase will not bring down inflation because that only works for demand lead inflation. Inflation due to supply issues or profiteering by the corporations is not going to be solved by interest rises. What is worse the reason why he has increased the rates which was given as to stop the flow of foreign currency leaving Turkey. It's a shit show where corporations and financiers are being rewarded for being parasitic.
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Re: Turkey is bankrupt

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:58 pm

...if as you imply generally speaking, the whole world has gone to shit, Turkey is bankrupt and so too the rest of "Them"; in such corruption it is a matter of confidence instead.

Erdogan, (at this point,) in effect to have a lasting Legacy, must save the World so to speak and he can by demonstrating the qualities of a Statesman, not for his "brothers" and not for any other International cabal but for 'us' (and in his own State the People); exposing "This" for what it is, by changing intentions solving his Problem in Turkey for starters, that in the Ukraine, in Cyprus, and dare i say it the land once Jordan's as well: needing Constitutional Reform what is wrong with a BBF i ask?

...one that respects the identity of people as Individuals who, as Persons demonstrate the same respect toward each other.
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Re: Turkey is bankrupt

Postby Lordo » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:00 pm

Absolutely nothing is wrong with BBF and we nearly had in in 2017 for Cyprus except in the last moment Anastasiades Russia and Greece decided to collapse the talks and here we are not even talking in 2024. So I suspect we can kiss goody to BBF in Cyprus for good.
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Re: Turkey is bankrupt

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Re: Turkey is bankrupt

Postby Londonrake » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:45 pm

It's a poor F35 clone, full of BA equipment, that won't see meaningful service for at least another 10 years.
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Re: Turkey is bankrupt

Postby Lordo » Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:11 pm

This post will bring my SwineCunt friends esecially the two dwarfs janitors to the point of ex-stasi salivating in the mouth and all that.

21 facts about Turkey that you may not know:

1. Turkey is one of only two countries in the world located on two continents, Europe and Asia.
2. The city of Istanbul was once known as Constantinople and was the capital of the Byzantine Empire.
3. Turkey is home to the remains of one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World, the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus.
4. The famous Turkish ice cream, dondurma, is so thick and chewy that it can be stretched and played with like taffy.
5. The tulip was introduced to Europe from Turkey in the 16th century, sparking the "Tulip Mania" craze in the Netherlands.
6. Turkey has the world's second-largest underground city, the ancient city of Derinkuyu, which could shelter up to 20,000 people.
7. The Turkish bath, or hamam, dates back to the Roman era and is an integral part of Turkish culture.
8. Turkey is the world's largest producer of hazelnuts, supplying around 70% of the global market.
9. The famous Trojan War in Greek mythology is believed to have taken place in what is now northwest Turkey.
10. Turkey has the longest stretch of continental coastline in the world, measuring over 8,000 kilometers.
11. The red star and crescent on the Turkish flag represent the Republic of Turkey and Islam respectively.
12. Turkey is home to the world's oldest known human settlement, Göbekli Tepe, which dates back over 11,000 years.
13. The Turkish language is the largest branch of the Turkic language family, with over 75 million native speakers.
14. Turkey is the world's largest producer of apricots, figs, and pomegranates.
15. The famous Whirling Dervish ceremony is a unique form of Sufi meditation originating in Turkey.
16. The legendary Mount Ararat, where Noah's Ark is said to have landed, is located in eastern Turkey.
17. The Turkish city of Istanbul is the only city in the world that spans two continents, Europe and Asia.
18. Turkey has the world's fourth-largest underground water reservoir, located beneath the Konya Plain.
19. The Turkish coffee tradition is on the UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage List.
20. Turkey is home to the world's largest covered Grand Bazaar, located in Istanbul, with over 4,000 shops.
21. The famous doner kebab, a popular street food worldwide, originated in Turkey in the 19th century.


"the ancient city of Derinkuyu, which could shelter up to 20,000 people". so I wonder if Hamas was aware of this fact when they prepared to take on the Zionists.
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Re: Turkey is bankrupt

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:09 am

...Turkey has the longest coastline? Greece has a coastline far larger if you count its islands.

(Quite fair, actually the way the Aegean is split, between one with the larger coastline, and one with the larger landmass.)

...Istanbul is Greek, there is/was no name change, only the devolution of a great cosmopolitan city to what it is today: what's left almost all "Turkish" and a threat to all the Turks not like them.
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Re: Turkey is bankrupt

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:35 am

I guess if you sum up all the islands you are right RW.

Today good news for Trunkey. Erdogan has lost his power base. He has lost all the largo cities which means his financial base is gone. His party will not be able to scam local authorities and bribe people.

In any case not controlling the profiteering of his friends in the market has cost him badly. It seems even the Germans are suffering today.

In UK we are in a worst position. Never mind taking trips abroad, over 10 million are unable to put food on the table. Even Policemen are having to go to food banks.
I t seems the West has had it for a while and all because of Ukraine really. That stirred some shit around.
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Re: Turkey is bankrupt

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:58 am

Lordo wrote:In UK we are in a worst position. Never mind taking trips abroad, over 10 million are unable to put food on the table. Even Policemen are having to go to food banks.
I t seems the West has had it for a while and all because of Ukraine really. That stirred some shit around.


Yes, the UK is soooo terrible that thousands leave France in little dinghies and risk their lives crossing the English Channel to get there... :roll:
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Re: Turkey is bankrupt

Postby Londonrake » Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:50 pm

Turkish local elections: Opposition stuns Erdogan with historic victory https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68704375

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