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USA and Europe vs T***ey.

Postby Cap » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:03 am

A US congressman once said (can't remember name) considering US policy concerning Tu**ey.

The US is like a massive ship in the ocean on course to its destination.
That ship, so big and heavy will take a lot of time to change course, but once it starts changing course it'll be impossible to stop it.



'Blow to Erdogan as US boots Turkey out of F-35 strike fighter program'
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1706781/middle-east

US to conduct military training with Cyprus, upsetting Turkey
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/07/ ... 41744.html
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Re: USA and Europe vs T***ey.

Postby Cap » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:39 am

'Cyprus is considering buying US arms to enhance the National Guard’s capability within the framework of USA-Cyprus joint committee seeking ways to further boost relations between the two countries'

https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/cyprus- ... y-us-arms/
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Re: USA and Europe vs T***ey.

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:35 pm

And do not be surprised that the F-35s that were earmarked for Turkey will end up in the hands of the HAF.

That has already been discussed between Trump and Mitsotakis at the White House a few weeks ago. :D
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Re: USA and Europe vs T***ey.

Postby Cap » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:08 pm

will end up in the hands of the HAF.


Jesus Christ... really? :roll: :roll:
You got a lot of faith in the Greek banana.
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Re: USA and Europe vs T***ey.

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:18 pm

Cap wrote:
will end up in the hands of the HAF.


Jesus Christ... really? :roll: :roll:
You got a lot of faith in the Greek banana.


Seriously?

You don’t think this is a good development? F-35s for Greece is a lot more important than any fishing trawlers the Cyprus Navy might have or the Vietnam era Hinds. :lol:

F-35s for Greece and its game over for the TAF. No Russian Fighter comes close to the F-35
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Re: USA and Europe vs T***ey.

Postby Cap » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:22 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:
will end up in the hands of the HAF.


Jesus Christ... really? :roll: :roll:
You got a lot of faith in the Greek banana.


Seriously?

You don’t think this is a good development? F-35s for Greece is a lot more important than any fishing trawlers the Cyprus Navy might have. :lol:


Didn't you ever think those F-35's would be in better hands in CY than your useless poushto Pontio Kalamarades.
You give them credit. You love them.
I call them out for what they are.... Scum.
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Re: USA and Europe vs T***ey.

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:29 pm

Cap wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:
will end up in the hands of the HAF.


Jesus Christ... really? :roll: :roll:
You got a lot of faith in the Greek banana.


Seriously?

You don’t think this is a good development? F-35s for Greece is a lot more important than any fishing trawlers the Cyprus Navy might have. :lol:


Didn't you ever think those F-35's would be in better hands in CY than your useless poushto Pontio Kalamarades.
You give them credit. You love them.
I call them out for what they are.... Scum.


No I don’t. Cyprus doesn’t have the experience or infrastructure to operate this kind of stuff.

It’s not just a matter of buying these aircraft. They have to be maintained and pilots need to be trained. There is an entire industry behind the scenes that keep them flying. Cyprus doesn’t have that. Greece has been operating fast jets dince the 60s. It was also the launch customer for the F-4 Phantom with Australia and US. That knowledge base and know how doesn’t just grow on trees or with a snap of our fingers. It will take Cyprus many years to get there.

But yeh, it would be nice. It will cost Cyprus 150 million per aircraft and probably several billions to set itself up and even upgrade its airports to have them because it’s not the kind of equipment you just leave out in the open.

Gripped is a better choice for Cyprus because Cyprus won’t have any airports.

And btw, Cypriot pilots are trained by the HAF in Kalamata. :roll:
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Re: USA and Europe vs T***ey.

Postby Cap » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:34 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:
will end up in the hands of the HAF.


Jesus Christ... really? :roll: :roll:
You got a lot of faith in the Greek banana.


Seriously?

You don’t think this is a good development? F-35s for Greece is a lot more important than any fishing trawlers the Cyprus Navy might have. :lol:


Didn't you ever think those F-35's would be in better hands in CY than your useless poushto Pontio Kalamarades.
You give them credit. You love them.
I call them out for what they are.... Scum.


No I don’t. Cyprus doesn’t have the experience or infrastructure to operate this kind of stuff.

It’s not just a matter of buying these aircraft. They have to be maintained and pilots need to be trained. There is an entire industry behind the scenes that keep them flying. Cyprus doesn’t have that. Greece has been operating fast jets dince the 60s. It was also the launch customer for the F-4 Phantom with Australia and US. That knowledge base and know how doesn’t just grow on trees or with a snap of our fingers. It will take Cyprus many years to get there.

But yeh, it would be nice. It will cost Cyprus 150 million per aircraft and probably several billions to set itself up and even upgrade its airports to have them because it’s not the kind of equipment you just leave out in the open.

Gripped is a better choice for Cyprus because Cyprus won’t have any airports.



That's fair enough Paphiti.
That ship is still turning.....
We'll talk soon enough.
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Re: USA and Europe vs T***ey.

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:37 pm

Cap wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:
will end up in the hands of the HAF.


Jesus Christ... really? :roll: :roll:
You got a lot of faith in the Greek banana.


Seriously?

You don’t think this is a good development? F-35s for Greece is a lot more important than any fishing trawlers the Cyprus Navy might have. :lol:


Didn't you ever think those F-35's would be in better hands in CY than your useless poushto Pontio Kalamarades.
You give them credit. You love them.
I call them out for what they are.... Scum.


No I don’t. Cyprus doesn’t have the experience or infrastructure to operate this kind of stuff.

It’s not just a matter of buying these aircraft. They have to be maintained and pilots need to be trained. There is an entire industry behind the scenes that keep them flying. Cyprus doesn’t have that. Greece has been operating fast jets dince the 60s. It was also the launch customer for the F-4 Phantom with Australia and US. That knowledge base and know how doesn’t just grow on trees or with a snap of our fingers. It will take Cyprus many years to get there.

But yeh, it would be nice. It will cost Cyprus 150 million per aircraft and probably several billions to set itself up and even upgrade its airports to have them because it’s not the kind of equipment you just leave out in the open.

Gripped is a better choice for Cyprus because Cyprus won’t have any airports.



That's fair enough Paphiti.
That ship is still turning.....
We'll talk soon enough.


And may it continue to turn.

But I find your attitude a little non constructive.

F-35s for Greece is a very good thing for us and the region. It is helpful to Cyprus, Israel and Egypt because Turkey is behaving like a rogue and there needs to be a balance. Without that balance, we are toast.

And they gain our pilots as well.
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Re: USA and Europe vs T***ey.

Postby Maximus » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:49 pm

Turkey has a pretty decent drone program,

Including their latest swarm of suicide drones.

https://ahvalnews.com/drone-warfare/tur ... ive%20said.


This is what Cyprus needs;

Relatively low cost, low maintenance, simple to operate drones that are missiles in an of themselves but have been modified with machine guns and able to drop grenades.

Lots of them.

:lol:

I dont know what Cyprus is waiting for.
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