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No water, no life.....

Postby Kikapu » Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:15 pm

Parts of the world are losing precious fresh water each year. Where will it all lead to. Desalination plants everywhere?

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/202 ... -shortage/

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/22/midd ... index.html
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Re: No water, no life.....

Postby Lordo » Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:26 pm

Building desalination plants is not the real answer. Dealing with climate change as well as declaring water and food as essential and distributing it fairly to the the whole world is. Each continent has certain areas with water and others dry hence it is practical to be able to distribute it fairly. The question is really is there a will to deal with it or just leave things as they are.
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Re: No water, no life.....

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:45 pm

...such was Ecevit's plan; what evolved to that "Century" thingy which brings water to "Cypriot Turks".

The soil, keeping it healthy seems to work, there are many examples in India, and in Africa, which demonstrate its potential against desertification and thirst.

...technologically, simple solutions have been found by respecting nature, nurturing it as opposed to driving it through plunder.

...the 1970's will be a mark in History where "progress" was abandoned to "budget cuts" for the sake of "free markets".

(...and when Goodwill was supplanted by Goodfaith)
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Re: No water, no life.....

Postby Lordo » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:43 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...such was Ecevit's plan; what evolved to that "Century" thingy which brings water to "Cypriot Turks".

The soil, keeping it healthy seems to work, there are many examples in India, and in Africa, which demonstrate its potential against desertification and thirst.

...technologically, simple solutions have been found by respecting nature, nurturing it as opposed to driving it through plunder.

...the 1970's will be a mark in History where "progress" was abandoned to "budget cuts" for the sake of "free markets".

(...and when Goodwill was supplanted by Goodfaith)

You mean Erdogan's right?

He had a different plan. His plan was not to dsitrubute water fairly, it was to increase the dependence of TCs on Turkey and grab some land too.

So no that was not such a plan, far from it.
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Re: No water, no life.....

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:06 pm

...indeed what was Ecevit's plan long forgotten, became another plan (that had nothing to do with hunger and thirst).

...(always political) water, weaponised (not just in Cyprus but in Iran, Iraq, and Syria).
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Re: No water, no life.....

Postby Lordo » Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:15 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...indeed what was Ecevit's plan long forgotten, became another plan (that had nothing to do with hunger and thirst).

...(always political) water, weaponised (not just in Cyprus but in Iran, Iraq, and Syria).

He said his plan on the day he sent the military in. He was going to restore RoC on the ivitiation of El Presidente Magariodade.
I get a feeling by the time the military reached half way there, he changed it to the one we have now. But he did have a lot of help from our GC friends.
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Re: No water, no life.....

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:18 pm

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east- ... e1e4b5b130

...and who controls the Euphrates with their dams?
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Re: No water, no life.....

Postby Lordo » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:24 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-business-syria-environment-and-nature-lebanon-e21f41e6a2b8d277b2547ce1e4b5b130

...and who controls the Euphrates with their dams?

I never said Turkey is a fine example of a country sharing resources. They should do but they do not. If it was just used for electricity generation that would not be so bad as water will sooner or later end up downstream. But they are using it to water their fields for food production. So in some way can you blame them. Till such time where sharing the worlds resources fairly between countries is actually accepted and implemented, we can only live in hope.
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Re: No water, no life.....

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:04 pm

imo the problem in the future won't be the water shortage. There's too much greenhouse effect that evaporates a lot more water from the seas. Hence the increase in rainfall in most countries. See recent floods in Germany.

The problem imo will be the dying of the trees and flora from extreme heat.
In Cyprus we first had temperatures approaching 45 deg C in the summer last year, killing production of fruits by about 50%.
Same thing this year, albeit we didn't get that high temperatures. Still strawberies that were around for 3-4 months in the past were only available for about 1-2 months this year, cherries for about a month compared to 2+, and I noticed shortages at the Supermarkets for very common vegetables.The excuse was that the producers did not deliver because the vegetables were all burned from the heat.
Summer this year in Cyprus is really UN-BEAR-ABLE!!

i beleive we will have floods in Winter and extreme heat in the summer in most parts of the world. Probably there won't be enough food after say 50-70 years.
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Re: No water, no life.....

Postby Kikapu » Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:32 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:imo the problem in the future won't be the water shortage. There's too much greenhouse effect that evaporates a lot more water from the seas. Hence the increase in rainfall in most countries. See recent floods in Germany.

The problem imo will be the dying of the trees and flora from extreme heat.
In Cyprus we first had temperatures approaching 45 deg C in the summer last year, killing production of fruits by about 50%.
Same thing this year, albeit we didn't get that high temperatures. Still strawberies that were around for 3-4 months in the past were only available for about 1-2 months this year, cherries for about a month compared to 2+, and I noticed shortages at the Supermarkets for very common vegetables.The excuse was that the producers did not deliver because the vegetables were all burned from the heat.
Summer this year in Cyprus is really UN-BEAR-ABLE!!

i beleive we will have floods in Winter and extreme heat in the summer in most parts of the world. Probably there won't be enough food after say 50-70 years.


Yes, rainfall will increase due to greenhouse effect, but where it will rain more or less is another story. Places where droughts are happening right now with ever increasing temperatures seems likely to continue and places where cooler temperatures and increased rainfalls are also will continue to increase. Europe in general is likely to have plenty of water in the foreseeable future, however, parts of countries created from barren and dry lands are likely to face difficulties from extrem heats and shortages of water, which will affect millions of people.
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