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[Lordo]

You have been brainwashed by donktash and the mosques.

I repeat what I said to your good friend. It says more about you than me.

And here you are repeating what your fanatics have been saying since 1963. Then I can understand as they had control of the media but now is just stupidity on both of your parts. Never mind you may have better luck next time you are born. Sometimes it can take a few times to get to be decent person, I understand and sympathise with your predicament.

But me unfortunately for you was living the events of the day.

[repulsewarrior]

Thanks again, Lordo, for the link to "Voice of Blood 2"; hardly "Turkish" propaganda, yet for "Greeks" it is described as such.

...i can't help but think of the struggle the People of America suffered (and still suffer), which ten years before (with men hung from trees) was not much different, so Black and White.

Patriots like now, existed. It is a question of values, and in the broadest sense the Principles they/we can all agree are universal. (Indeed, a Modern concept, since 1789 (read:1776), and the UN's establishment since then).

...it is a never ending battle, such is the fight against Ignorance: the fear of those too selfish to overcome their own fears finding in hatred comfort; divided as they/we are who then is left among them/us to defend reason but the few?

And who are these people, not "Them"; not having a dogma "belonging" to not one or the other: why real Patriots seem so few, "being" neither.

...but i am hopeful, and such a documentary only confirms that these hopes are shared, as a loving people, even among those of us who have suffered the most.

[Lordo]

Thanks again, Lordo, for the link to "Voice of Blood 2"; hardly "Turkish" propaganda, yet for "Greeks" it is described as such.

...i can't help but think of the struggle the People of America suffered (and still suffer), which ten years before (with men hung from trees) was not much different, so Black and White.

Patriots like now, existed. It is a question of values, and in the broadest sense the Principles they/we can all agree are universal. (Indeed, a Modern concept, since 1789 (read:1776), and the UN's establishment since then).

...it is a never ending battle, such is the fight against Ignorance: the fear of those too selfish to overcome their own fears finding in hatred comfort; divided as they/we are who then is left among them/us to defend reason but the few?

And who are these people, not "Them"; not having a dogma "belonging" to not one or the other: why real Patriots seem so few, "being" neither.

...but i am hopeful, and such a documentary only confirms that these hopes are shared, as a loving people, even among those of us who have suffered the most.

I can only wish to have your hopes but I am arealist. The incident in the film took part in 1974. The maker of the film lost his jobe and nobody else would hire him so he had to leave for a while. Kizilyurek years later simply mentined the incident on a live TC program and was taken of the air.

So you see the ignorance is not only alive and well but imbedded in the education system.

To compare like for like. There was a film made called "our wall", which was actually shown on TV in the north when Talat was President. The head of the broadcasting was removed from the station but not on the night of the show but much later and another difference was he was not driven out of the country, he continued to work in the north and had a successful career in Education and broadcasting world. He switched to a private broadcasting company instead.

When such ignorence is not even discussed openly, we have no hopw of changing things.Especially when the destroyers of RoC are paraded on the media as heros and streets are named after them.
Don't worry it is the same in the north except Muftu is not incharge of education only one hour a week religous lesson children get in some years not all.

[Pyrpolizer]

Very interesting film coming out soon. Lets hope we can find it and watch it.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/09/04/my-milk-dad-the-story-of-genuine-friendship/?fbclid=IwAR0mBmrLZsEwCTgkc-DgQrtFxqSTml9JfgFRT4LivQuyXuzhapCX817bT64

Don't let your brainwasing to fade out.
Go to your Denktash'es famous 'museum of barbarosity" to get a fresh dose.

Interestingly you seeing me as a Dengtash's brainwashed individual says far more about you than me.

Of course you are. Who else other than a Denktash brainwased victim would beleive that the stealing of GC properties was an "exchange" imish? Go on Lordo go "exchange" your bicycle at Softalar with a porche at Varoshia, if you haven't already done so.

[Lordo]

Very interesting film coming out soon. Lets hope we can find it and watch it.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/09/04/my-milk-dad-the-story-of-genuine-friendship/?fbclid=IwAR0mBmrLZsEwCTgkc-DgQrtFxqSTml9JfgFRT4LivQuyXuzhapCX817bT64

Don't let your brainwasing to fade out.
Go to your Denktash'es famous 'museum of barbarosity" to get a fresh dose.

Interestingly you seeing me as a Dengtash's brainwashed individual says far more about you than me.

Of course you are. Who else other than a Denktash brainwased victim would beleive that the stealing of GC properties was an "exchange" imish? Go on Lordo go "exchange" your bicycle at Softalar with a porche at Varoshia, if you haven't already done so.

So you believe everybody should be allowed to return to their homes. Good luck with that. Exchange is the only fair way to move forward.

[Pyrpolizer]

Very interesting film coming out soon. Lets hope we can find it and watch it.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/09/04/my-milk-dad-the-story-of-genuine-friendship/?fbclid=IwAR0mBmrLZsEwCTgkc-DgQrtFxqSTml9JfgFRT4LivQuyXuzhapCX817bT64

Don't let your brainwasing to fade out.
Go to your Denktash'es famous 'museum of barbarosity" to get a fresh dose.

Interestingly you seeing me as a Dengtash's brainwashed individual says far more about you than me.

Of course you are. Who else other than a Denktash brainwased victim would beleive that the stealing of GC properties was an "exchange" imish? Go on Lordo go "exchange" your bicycle at Softalar with a porche at Varoshia, if you haven't already done so.

So you believe everybody should be allowed to return to their homes. Good luck with that. Exchange is the only fair way to move forward.

Sure, sure. Take my bicycle give me your Porche. That's the only fair way to move forward...
And then you want us to beleive you are not a brainwashed Denktash oglani.Let aside that this so called "exchange" occured soon after 1974 when half the GC were refugees living in tents under the trees.

[Lordo]

You are blinded by your fanaticsm. The Timbu fella had 600 donums of land valued at 23 Million Euros and as given land and properties in the south of equal value. RoC first refused to hand over the land to him and went to court and finally forced him to accept 13 million Euros. Surely if it was only worth 13 Million they could have just given him the land and be done with it. Nope they forced him to accept 13 Million. The example you gave just goes to show how light weight you are. Infact donum for donum the TC properties in south are worth a lot more but never mind you continue to wallow in your ignorance. What ever makes you happy. I never said just exchange, I said a fair exchange. Pound for pound as it were.

But it seems you are as ignorant as some of the others here I have stopped taking seriously.

[Pyrpolizer]

You are blinded by your fanaticsm. The Timbu fell had 600 donums of land valued at 23 Million Euros and as given land and properties in the south of equal value. RoC first refused to hand ove r the land to him and went to court and finally forced him to accept 13 million Euros. Surely if it was only worth 13 Million they could have just given him the land and be done with it. Nope they forced him to accept 13 Million. The example you gave just goes to show how light weight you are. Infact donum for donum the TC properties in south are worth a lot more but never mind you continue to wallow in your ignorance. What ever makes you happy. I never said just exchange, I said a fair exchange. Pound for pound as it were.

But it seems you are as ignorant as some of the others here I have stopped taking seriously.

I have studied the issue, I never waited either from Denktash or the RoC to give me facts. Which once again proves you absorb like a sponge every lie the Denktashes, Eroglus, and Tatars tell you.
The facts are:
Area-wise the TCs left behind 1/5th of the properties they got in the Northern part in 1974.
Value-wise those properties worth 1/20th of the properties they got in the Northern part in 1974.

Btw what did the settlers left behind, what the hell did they "exchange"? They already outnumber you don't they?

[Maximus]

Bordo, you brainwashed fool.

All previous TC administrations should have invited a delegation of Greek Cypriots to join a "technical committee" for the administration of the north.

The GC's should represent 80% of this administrative and judicial system (in the north) to test out your communities ideas about how a government would work in a BBF.

This can be your communities confidence building measures.

Your community should also be contributing to the RoC 50% of everything in the north.

Why not try that for about 10 years in the north only so we can see how it goes?

Skada omos.......

[Lordo]

You are blinded by your fanaticsm. The Timbu fell had 600 donums of land valued at 23 Million Euros and as given land and properties in the south of equal value. RoC first refused to hand ove r the land to him and went to court and finally forced him to accept 13 million Euros. Surely if it was only worth 13 Million they could have just given him the land and be done with it. Nope they forced him to accept 13 Million. The example you gave just goes to show how light weight you are. Infact donum for donum the TC properties in south are worth a lot more but never mind you continue to wallow in your ignorance. What ever makes you happy. I never said just exchange, I said a fair exchange. Pound for pound as it were.

But it seems you are as ignorant as some of the others here I have stopped taking seriously.

I have studied the issue, I never waited either from Denktash or the RoC to give me facts. Which once again proves you absorb like a sponge every lie the Denktashes, Eroglus, and Tatars tell you.
The facts are:
Area-wise the TCs left behind 1/5th of the properties they got in the Northern part in 1974.
Value-wise those properties worth 1/20th of the properties they got in the Northern part in 1974.

Btw what did the settlers left behind, what the hell did they "exchange"? They already outnumber you don't they?

Have you indeed studdied tghe issue. Well the example I have clearly shows the value of TC properties in the south at least 10 times the vlaue, But thats ok, you can carry on believing what ever you like. Even if it is utter nonsense.

By all means give me some examples where like for like.

For instance what you are caliming is that values in GC Nicosia properties in the north are 20 times the values of the TC properties in the south. And the same for Larnaka, Baf and limasol too. The TC properties in the south are 1/20 of properties in Girne.

Cause I need a good laugh.

Go explain example wise as you looked at this issue.