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Re: Good Film for my TC friends

Postby Lordo » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:20 pm

Lordo wrote:This is the film Guney was able to watch in Prison.




This song would have been perfect for this film. They were treated by the state the same as these actors. They spent 9 months of the year in jail since 1986 for their music but 20 albums later they survive to this day.

Lament for the miner

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Re: Good Film for my TC friends

Postby Lordo » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:54 pm

Yilmaz Guney's last film before cancer took him.

The wall. His experiences in prison having spent most of his adult life in 25 different prisons. He was moved regularly because he was able to orginise and unite prisoners to resist authority.

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Re: Good Film for my TC friends

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:05 pm

Paphitis wrote:Yes I can provide dozens of quality American films in the last 10 years or more.

So many to choose. Such as Hunger Games.
So among the dozens you can provide you chose this one?!
Then you have a very bad sense of quality. In general quality films are rated at about 8+ in IMDB plus win some important awards. Awards for best actor/actress, best song, best costume design are meaningless... Awards for best film, sure that is really important. Fyi this one is rated at 7.2 (a bit above average) and on top of everything it won the Golden Schmoes Awards for the most overrated movie of the year!
:lol: :lol:


And with quality actors. The Americans have it all tapped with their actors and also with non American actors who go there - like Mel Gibson and Nicole Kidman.

The US film industry makes good films. It is far superior to let’s say the Australian Film Industry. There are the occasional great Aussie Productions like Underbelly. The one you mention isn’t one of them imo.

But the Aussie Film Industry is extremely advanced. It’s just that the Aussie Film Industry in reality is American as most of the movies are combined Aussie and American. Many of the American films are actually shot in Australia with Fox Studios and 20th Century Fox etc which you guessed it - owned by Murdoch who owns all the media in Australia, most of it in the UK and a big chunk of the US Market. Harry Potter, was filmed in New Zealand. Unquestionably American but with NZ Film industry and I think Aussie Film industry involvement as well but who are we kidding. Big films like that are American. They only chose to film in NZ because the NZ topography suited them. Nothing more.

All our best actors, go to America. I mean look at them all. There must be 20 odd actors with Aussie twangs trying to have an American accent. Mel Gibson, Nicole and so many more.

Where the American studios excel is in their special effects. Not uncommon sometimes for a US film costing tens of millions to make in order to get the big name actors which are all in LA to begin with, or get the best stunt teams and special effects specialists. I’m talking about special effects like we saw in the Matrix, Star Wars and many more.

Where have you seen that before and that level of investment?
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Re: Good Film for my TC friends

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:52 pm

Lordo wrote:Here is Suru....


I am going to watch this for sure. I made quick search and it looks it was quality film back in 1978.
The uploader was actually a Greek guy, that's why it has Greek subs too.

A reviewer said:
"I don't believe that many people out there who queue for films like Star Wars would understand what a masterpiece this film is. It is great. It is real. It is more than just a film. You cannot write scripts like that so easily..."

And kept wondering who said somethng about Star Wars in this very topic? Any guess?

























































Paphitis wrote:… I’m talking about special effects like we saw in the Matrix, Star Wars and many more.
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Re: Good Film for my TC friends

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:43 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Yes I can provide dozens of quality American films in the last 10 years or more.

So many to choose. Such as Hunger Games.
So among the dozens you can provide you chose this one?!
Then you have a very bad sense of quality. In general quality films are rated at about 8+ in IMDB plus win some important awards. Awards for best actor/actress, best song, best costume design are meaningless... Awards for best film, sure that is really important. Fyi this one is rated at 7.2 (a bit above average) and on top of everything it won the Golden Schmoes Awards for the most overrated movie of the year!
:lol: :lol:


And with quality actors. The Americans have it all tapped with their actors and also with non American actors who go there - like Mel Gibson and Nicole Kidman.

The US film industry makes good films. It is far superior to let’s say the Australian Film Industry. There are the occasional great Aussie Productions like Underbelly. The one you mention isn’t one of them imo.

But the Aussie Film Industry is extremely advanced. It’s just that the Aussie Film Industry in reality is American as most of the movies are combined Aussie and American. Many of the American films are actually shot in Australia with Fox Studios and 20th Century Fox etc which you guessed it - owned by Murdoch who owns all the media in Australia, most of it in the UK and a big chunk of the US Market. Harry Potter, was filmed in New Zealand. Unquestionably American but with NZ Film industry and I think Aussie Film industry involvement as well but who are we kidding. Big films like that are American. They only chose to film in NZ because the NZ topography suited them. Nothing more.

All our best actors, go to America. I mean look at them all. There must be 20 odd actors with Aussie twangs trying to have an American accent. Mel Gibson, Nicole and so many more.

Where the American studios excel is in their special effects. Not uncommon sometimes for a US film costing tens of millions to make in order to get the big name actors which are all in LA to begin with, or get the best stunt teams and special effects specialists. I’m talking about special effects like we saw in the Matrix, Star Wars and many more.

Where have you seen that before and that level of investment?


Seriously Pyro. I have a bad sense of quality.

It’s news to me that the Americans have bad quality. They are usually world leading with the content they create, their actors and big box office budgets sometimes exceeding $100 million per movie. Who in the world competes with that?

You can simply do a google search for the movies they create. Titles like:
Harry Potter
The Irishman
Social Network
Etc etc - if I google, you will see dozens of them.

And with actors like
Deniro
Kidman
Gibson
Jolie
Emma Stone



I watched a great Korean film the other day. No doubt it was quality. I just enjoyed it. But guess what. It was a Netflix production. Netflix being a US company. The Americans funded it. So America’s hand was in that too.

If you want to watch it - it’s called Squid Game
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Re: Good Film for my TC friends

Postby Londonrake » Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:02 am

Squid Game’s a 9 episode Netflix original series. After which you’ll never be tempted to play, what we used as kids to call “peep behind the curtain”, ever again. :shock: :D
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Re: Good Film for my TC friends

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:50 pm

It was great. A Korean spectacular.

Although, you got to wonder. Netflix funded it. Making it at least part American or American owned.

Still, it had Korean actors abd was filmed in Korea. Definitely a great Korean production, owned by Netflix.

Either way. It was captivating.
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Re: Good Film for my TC friends

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:47 pm

Paphitis wrote:....
You can simply do a google search for the movies they create. Titles like:
Harry Potter
The Irishman
Social Network
Etc etc - if I google, you will see dozens of them.

You still confuse big budget movies, with quality.
E.g. Your proposed Scorsese's "The Irishman" starring De Niro, Al Pacino etc had a budget of 159 million and a Box office of only 7. This is a no go regarding quality.
The other one "Social Network" had 40M budget Vs 225M at box office. (perhaps because it was all about the founder of facebook?). This by itself does not quarantee quality. However the awards it got from so many foreign associations (Brazil,Spain, France, Australia, Ireland, UK especially the awards for "best foreign film", point to the direction of quality. Haven't seen it though.


And with actors like
Deniro
Kidman
Gibson
Jolie
Emma Stone



I watched a great Korean film the other day. No doubt it was quality. I just enjoyed it. But guess what. It was a Netflix production. Netflix being a US company. The Americans funded it. So America’s hand was in that too.

If you want to watch it - it’s called Squid Game
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Re: Good Film for my TC friends

Postby Lordo » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:29 pm

While we are at it, here is another film from the man and he is starring in it too.

Umut - Hope

Sometimes thats all there is. As we can see to this day. Incredible film.

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Re: Good Film for my TC friends

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:45 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:....
You can simply do a google search for the movies they create. Titles like:
Harry Potter
The Irishman
Social Network
Etc etc - if I google, you will see dozens of them.

You still confuse big budget movies, with quality.
E.g. Your proposed Scorsese's "The Irishman" starring De Niro, Al Pacino etc had a budget of 159 million and a Box office of only 7. This is a no go regarding quality.
The other one "Social Network" had 40M budget Vs 225M at box office. (perhaps because it was all about the founder of facebook?). This by itself does not quarantee quality. However the awards it got from so many foreign associations (Brazil,Spain, France, Australia, Ireland, UK especially the awards for "best foreign film", point to the direction of quality. Haven't seen it though.


And with actors like
Deniro
Kidman
Gibson
Jolie
Emma Stone



I watched a great Korean film the other day. No doubt it was quality. I just enjoyed it. But guess what. It was a Netflix production. Netflix being a US company. The Americans funded it. So America’s hand was in that too.

If you want to watch it - it’s called Squid Game


Quality doesn’t always translate as success at the box office these days in the age of Netflix.

People don’t go to the cinema as much anymore.

And the Americans don’t spend 159 million to make 7 million. They are making the money from selling the rights to Netflix and other platforms like it.

And the Irishman is certainly VERY high quality

It’s on Netflix now. This is where I watched it. And it’s in the top 10. On a platform that has over a billion subscribers globally.
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