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[Lordo]

This is going to get very ugly in courts. But what does past experience say about sending refugees to another country. I understand that we have a resident of that country who did such a thing on here, so perhaps he can furnish us with some details as:

1. To how many people were sent there
2. What was their life like there?
3. Did people kill themselves or each other?
4. What did it cost to the government to implement such a policy?

[Maximus]

Why is it going to get ugly in the courts? What is illegal about sending refugees to Rwanda for processing?

[Kikapu]

Why is it going to get ugly in the courts? What is illegal about sending refugees to Rwanda for processing?

Most probably their Human Rights won’t be protected there and subject to abuse.

[Lordo]

Why is it going to get ugly in the courts? What is illegal about sending refugees to Rwanda for processing?

Most probably their Human Rights won’t be protected there and subject to abuse.

I expect you to be better informed Kikapu. The reason is their Human Rights are abused before they even get there. UK has no legal right to take them to another country. Which is why no other country would accept them. Rwanda extracted a heavy price to accept them. But of course accepting them is not a crime, only forcing them to go there is.

Of course the real issue is that they are only getting a one way ticket there and will not be able to return to the UK even if their applications are successful. Statistically 80% are successful. And of course even if they are taken there, they will make their way back at a huge risk to their lives far worse than they took first time round.

But the real downer is how much it costs. Australia has been doing it for some time. They too about 3500 people to Neru Island and it cost the Ausies a cool 3.5 billion dollars so far. Not million, I am talking about billion. They could have given them 100,000 dollars and they would have returned to their homes to make a living. Stupidity has no limits but I guess they were descended from common criminal.

[Maximus]

Why is it going to get ugly in the courts? What is illegal about sending refugees to Rwanda for processing?

Most probably their Human Rights won’t be protected there and subject to abuse.

Innocent until proven guilty,

There is nothing illegal about sending people to another country for processing.

Most of them are not refugees anyway. It has been proven that the vast majority of these asylum seekers and refugees are bogus. They are just a drain on resources.

On the positive side of this deal, Rwandan's will be employed.

[Maximus]

I am talking about billion. They could have given them 100,000 dollars and they would have returned to their homes to make a living. Stupidity has no limits but I guess they were descended from common criminal.

See, these people are not refugees or asylum seekers.

Bogus claimants draining resources from other nations.

Anyone objecting to such solutions to stop the mass irregular (donkey) migration of people are also part of the problem.

[Kikapu]

Why is it going to get ugly in the courts? What is illegal about sending refugees to Rwanda for processing?

Most probably their Human Rights won’t be protected there and subject to abuse.

I expect you to be better informed Kikapu. The reason is their Human Rights are abused before they even get there. UK has no legal right to take them to another country. Which is why no other country would accept them. Rwanda extracted a heavy price to accept them. But of course accepting them is not a crime, only forcing them to go there is.

Of course the real issue is that they are only getting a one way ticket there and will not be able to return to the UK even if their applications are successful. Statistically 80% are successful. And of course even if they are taken there, they will make their way back at a huge risk to their lives far worse than they took first time round.

But the real downer is how much it costs. Australia has been doing it for some time. They too about 3500 people to Neru Island and it cost the Ausies a cool 3.5 billion dollars so far. Not million, I am talking about billion. They could have given them 100,000 dollars and they would have returned to their homes to make a living. Stupidity has no limits but I guess they were descended from common criminal.

Yes, you are totally correct Lordo. I just gave a quick response to Max. So basically there will be more than one reason that the lawyers will argue in the British courts which is that the asylum seekers Human Rights will be violated with the forced removal from the UK and that they will also face Human Rights violations in Rwanda more than likely, which is why the UK government has turned against the lawyers for wanting to do their jobs. They were hoping to make a “kangaroo court” to send these people on a one way ticket away from the UK in the middle of the night as the country was sleeping. One more reason U.K. wanting to be out of the EU to try and violate people’s rights. They couldn’t do it with the EU citizens which they thought that was a problem, so now the UK is having to deal with non EU citizens entering the UK illegally since other EU countries are not stopping them before making it across the channel. Then again, this is nothing new for the British government. Didn’t they also send thousands of prisoners on a one way ticket to Australia back when?

[Londonrake]

Perhaps the idea is not actually wanting to send people to the like of Rwanda but for it to act as a deterrent.

This past weekend alone 500 people were rescued from rubber dinghies as they attempted a Channel crossing. 8000 so far this year. The vast majority young men of fighting age who've crossed the whole of war torn Europe in order to get to the UK.

Can you have a remote inkling of the concern that sort of saturation - illegal - immigration might cause to people in the UK who are worried about their lives/families. The provision of public services, ever increasing cost of living, et al?

Easy to be an armchair judge (well, just like Ukraine )

Do feel free to cherry pick and express righteous indignation.

[Maximus]

Then again, this is nothing new for the British government. Didn’t they also send thousands of prisoners on a one way ticket to Australia back when?

Is this a case of either rotting in a rat infested English jail and sleeping in your own piss, versus being shipped off to start a new life in sunny Australia.

I wonder what offers less human rights. No, I know what option I would take....

Today, people from all over the world are trying to go live with those "convicts".

[Kikapu]

Perhaps the idea is not actually wanting to send people to the like of Rwanda but for it to act as a deterrent.

This past weekend alone 500 people were rescued from rubber dinghies as they attempted a Channel crossing. 8000 so far this year. The vast majority young men of fighting age who've crossed the whole of war torn Europe in order to get to the UK.

Can you have a remote inkling of the concern that sort of saturation - illegal - immigration might cause to people in the UK who are worried about their lives/families. The provision of public services, ever increasing cost of living, et al?

Easy to be an armchair judge (well, just like Ukraine )

Do feel free to cherry pick and express righteous indignation.

Desperate people will do desperate things, even if it means risking their lives.

Perhaps allowing more people to immigrate legally from their own countries might persuade most not to make these deadly attempts to reach the UK. Personally I don’t know why they would choose the UK to come to begin with? Maybe because they speak some English and they love the Queen, or maybe they feel entitled if they come from former colonies. Perhaps too many business owners like to employ slave Labou since the illegal migrants are not going to complained about the working conditions or pay. So yes, slavery is not only in the past as it never really ended.

The British should worry more about their own kind when it comes to violence in the UK and not illegal immigrant.

In case you think I am a illegal alien apologist, let me set your mind to rest one more time that I am not. Just saying as I see things.