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Re: Why these gender wars?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:34 am

Oceanside50 wrote:There is a gender war here in America. After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade, protests outside the Supreme Court by people claiming that rights have been taken away by old white men. Certain women complaining about misogyny and patriarchy that’s oppressing them. Toxic masculinity, some claim, tries to keep women down and oppressed. Womens rights are being abused daily the “ Me too” movement claims.. Gloria Steinem the old hippie from California says” masculinity is a desease that needs to be eradicated”.,, Where does all this venom and vitriol come from and why?….


Ocean,

this is the identity politics of the looney Democrats.

The vast majority of Americans can see right through it which is why Trump is now odds on favorite to win the Legislative Elections in November and become POTUS in 2024.

There are 180 million Christians in America, so the vast majority is God fearing, and they will be voting GOP and Trump in huge numbers.

Let's try not to educate them beforehand.
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Re: Why these gender wars?

Postby Oceanside50 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:22 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:There is a gender war here in America. After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade, protests outside the Supreme Court by people claiming that rights have been taken away by old white men. Certain women complaining about misogyny and patriarchy that’s oppressing them. Toxic masculinity, some claim, tries to keep women down and oppressed. Womens rights are being abused daily the “ Me too” movement claims.. Gloria Steinem the old hippie from California says” masculinity is a desease that needs to be eradicated”.,, Where does all this venom and vitriol come from and why?….


Ocean,

this is the identity politics of the looney Democrats.

The vast majority of Americans can see right through it which is why Trump is now odds on favorite to win the Legislative Elections in November and become POTUS in 2024.

There are 180 million Christians in America, so the vast majority is God fearing, and they will be voting GOP and Trump in huge numbers.

Let's try not to educate them beforehand.
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Re: Why these gender wars?

Postby Oceanside50 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:37 pm

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Oceanside50 wrote:Not too far away from here is Jamestown, Virginia.. Jamestown was the first successful English colony in North America(1607). Many consider Jamestown the beginning of America. To my surprise the native Indians showed the English tobacco. Tobacco was not known in Europe. The English took to tobacco to England and eventually to the rest of the world. Tobacco eventually became a cash crop here in Virginia. Englishmen immigrated to Jamestown for plenty of free land to grow their tobacco and to export it to Europe. At one point there were more English in Virginia growing tobacco, then there were in England.. The farming of tobacco needed more labor, that’s when someone came up with the idea to bring black slaves to Virginia.. The colonies grew and just 150 years later, the colonies declared their independence from England..

Before you develop your theory regarding slavery, lets get the bits you missed out first. When the English settlers first arrived there, they were starving because the corn they brought there did not do well. It was the Native Americans that helped them with food and gave thme seed to grow to survive. They also taught them how to ground corn and make it palatable.

As a food source, corn was abundant, adaptable, and nourishing, saving many early settlements from starvation. The Native Americans taught the Europeans much more than planting and raising corn. They showed how corn was properly ground and made palatable in various ways.


https://www.revolutionarywarjournal.com/indian-corn/#:~:text=As%20a%20food%20source%2C%20corn%20was%20abundant%2C%20adaptable%2C,properly%20ground%20and%20made%20palatable%20in%20various%20ways.
And of course we all know what they did to the Native Americans afterwards.

Now lets see your justification abour slavery.



I saw the Christian church on the archeological diagram of Jamestown, I couldn’t wrap my ahead around how these English, being Christian could import humans to be their slaves….

The English are Protestants, very different then Christian Orthodox. After their split from the Catholics. Protestants began to follow “ Sola Scriptura” latin for the absolute and final authority of the Bible, basically knowing the Bible in its most literal form.. I’ve heard these people recite from memory whole paragraphs of the Bible with verse number and paragraph number….

There are references to slavery in the Bible :

Leviticus : Hebrew servants were not to be treated as slaves but as hired workers.

Leviticus: Purchase your slaves from the nations around you, they are property for life and you could bequeath them to your children for life

Exodus: describes how bad a slave could be beaten with a rod. As long as the slave recovered with in a day or two the owner wasn’t punished since the slave was his property..

I’ve heard evangelicals say” God knew that man was evil, so he came up with laws that governed slavery”. In my opinion pure nonsense.. But the Protestants held onto these beliefs of having slaves for close to 400 years..

On the other side of the Christian perspective the Orthodox see the Bible as truth but also as a drop in the ocean of Gods infinity.. a paragraph out of the Bible could not come close to describing the infinity of God..
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Re: Why these gender wars?

Postby Lordo » Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:23 am

You are stuck in the bible and yet you are blind to the modern slavery going on today. You think slavery has ended.

Have a look at how corporations are pating peanuts to people in thrid world countires and charging us western prices and making a killing. They are in effect keeping people alive just so they can produce.

KKK and the South Africans were god fearing people. Chruchill I am sure went to church just before he starved 3 million Native Indians. Gender has fuck all to do with it. There is rich man's world and there is poor mans' world. Withong those constrains there is no equality. Very few jobs actually value women as much as man for equal work. If a few women hate men they have the right to because they have suffered and still do to this day.

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Re: Why these gender wars?

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:41 am

In the Bible there are also references to women and how they should act and how God sees them.. to my surprise there are lots of references about women, too many to list all but here are some:

1 Corinthians 11:2 but I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman the man”

1 Corinthians 14:35 and if women will learn anything let them ask their husbands at home, for it is a shame for women to speak in the church

Ephesians 5: wives submit yourselves unto your husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife

Timothy 2:11-13.. Let the woman learn in silence w/ all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man but to be in silence, for Adam was first formed then Eve…

Many more verses that instruct women to be humble… and obey their husbands..

These verses are taken literally by Protestants with no exceptions.. For the Bible is sufficient and the Bible is the word from God…
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Re: Why these gender wars?

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:50 am

Oceanside50 wrote:In the Bible there are also references to women and how they should act and how God sees them.. to my surprise there are lots of references about women, too many to list all but here are some:

1 Corinthians 11:2 but I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman the man”

1 Corinthians 14:35 and if women will learn anything let them ask their husbands at home, for it is a shame for women to speak in the church

Ephesians 5: wives submit yourselves unto your husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife

Timothy 2:11-13.. Let the woman learn in silence w/ all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man but to be in silence, for Adam was first formed then Eve…

Many more verses that instruct women to be humble… and obey their husbands..

These verses are taken literally by Protestants with no exceptions.. For the Bible is sufficient and the Bible is the word from God…

As a typical chauvinistic pig, I immensely enjoyed these… more please! :D
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Re: Why these gender wars?

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:51 am

I think for the Anglican Church it’s beliefs have had a cultural effect on the societies it’s a part of.. women hearing generation after generation that they should be subservient to men, according to scripture, has an impact on them.. in Catholic cultures and probably even more so Christian orthodox cultures, feminism is insignificant…

Could these resentments, in the form of feminism and modern feminism, be a result of the misinterpretation of Christianity by the Protestants??
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Re: Why these gender wars?

Postby Lordo » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:33 am

All bullshit. The bible has no place in society today. The resentment of some women today is because while man serves lip service to equality of the sexes, he does nothing of the kind.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/oct/07/only-eight-of-uks-top-100-companies-headed-by-women-report-says

And of course you are going to say they are not good enough. Women were only allowed to go to uni about a hundred years ago. Taliban is only about 100 years behind the west regarding women. Even more bullshit. And we have an idiot here who thinks women have equal rights. yeah of course and pigs will fly too very soon.

They have only been able to vote just over 100 years and have been oppressed by men for thousands of years. You need to look in the mirror as a man to see where the resentment is coming from. On the individual level some of us have found a way to connect with women on equal level and it works very well.

Quoting the bible which was written for man not only to control women but also the poor aint gona do it.
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Re: Why these gender wars?

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:53 am

The other day I got a group picture in the cockpit of a female pilot friend who had just flown in a ALL female flight crew from USA to Germany on a Boeing-787.. These women would tell to all those who wrote those scriptures in the Bible.......Go fuck yourselves! :D
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Re: Why these gender wars?

Postby Lordo » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:49 pm

Kikapu wrote:The other day I got a group picture in the cockpit of a female pilot friend who had just flown in a ALL female flight crew from USA to Germany on a Boeing-787.. These women would tell to all those who wrote those scriptures in the Bible.......Go fuck yourselves! :D

And how long did it take for the assholes to allow a woman in an airplane cockpit? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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