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Postby brother » Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:59 pm

KKTC celebrates founding anniversary

* Sezer: The two peoples of Cyprus can live together in peace and security after realizing that a possible solution depends on equal partnership

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ANKARA - Turkish Daily News

The Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC) celebrated the 21st anniversary of its founding on Sunday in ceremonies held all over the north of the island and in Turkish Cypriot representations around the world.

Speaking at a ceremony in Nicosia, KKTC President Rauf Denktas said: "Turkish Cypriot people want to reach a compromise with the Greek Cypriot side without making any concession to their independence, sovereignty and state."

Turkey was represented by President Ahmet Necdet Sezer's advisor Kemal Nehrozoglu, Deputy Parliamentary Speaker Sadik Yakut and Deputy Prime Minister Abdullatif Sener.

Sener said: "The Turkish Cypriot people were in favor of compromise in the referenda on the Annan plan. However, the Greek Cypriot side rejected it. The international community should assess the results of the referenda in Cyprus. Turkey is determined to further deepen its relations with the KKTC."

President Ahmet Necdet Sezer said on Monday that the two peoples in Cyprus could live together in peace and security after realizing that a possible solution depends upon equal partnership. In a congratulatory statement sent to Denktas, he said: "The KKTC is the symbol of Turkish Cypriot people's will to live freely and humanely. Turkish Cypriot people's historical and legal rights have come into being in the KKTC."

In a message sent by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to Denktas, he said: "Turkish Cypriots are equal partners of a lasting peace and consensus. The will of Turkish Cypriots for integration with the world should not be ignored any more."

He said: "I would like to confirm one more time the support of Turkey to the KKTC and Turkish Cypriots in every area. Under your leadership, Turkish Cypriots have reached the present time in spite of all the difficulties. Turkish Cypriots' preserving their unity is important for future as well."
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Postby -mikkie2- » Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:24 pm

Denktas says:

"Turkish Cypriot people want to reach a compromise with the Greek Cypriot side without making any concession to their independence, sovereignty and state."


How can you compromise when you are not prepared to make concessions????? It is illogical captain!
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Postby brother » Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:36 pm

Denktash can say what he wants but as of next year , he is out of there and as past situations show we the cypriots given the choice know what we want and will do what is right.

Let him have his moment, soon enough he will not be around but if tassos is the situation will still not change.
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Postby metecyp » Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:37 pm

How can you compromise when you are not prepared to make concessions????? It is illogical captain!

See, not many people listen Denktash anymore in the north but a lot of people not only listen but support Papadopoulos in the south. That's the problem.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:23 pm

See, not many people listen Denktash anymore in the north but a lot of people not only listen but support Papadopoulos in the south. That's the problem.


Not many people listen to Denctash, but he is still your "president".
On the other hand people that support illegal things such as the violation of human rights of Turkish Cypriots, not only they do not have our support, not only they are not listened to but you don't even hear about them.

You keep saying that Denctash = Papadopoulos. Thats totally wrong because Papadopoulos doesn't ask for anything illegal, he doesn't want to violate any of Turkish Cypriots human rights.

So stop confusing things.

If you bring as a leader the TC version of Papadopoulos (= one that will not ask for violations of human rights or anything illegal) then we would be perfectly happy.
Unfortunately non of your high post leaders right now is much better than Denctash, and non of them can be compared with the 100% legal, 100% human rights compatible things that Papadopoulos is asking for.
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Postby brother » Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:40 pm

No he asks instead for unreasonable demands and uses blackmail to get what he wants and do not forget tassos is terrorist turned leader and all tc know of his EOKA past even if GC do not want to hear about it or acknowledge it, we are going to be rid of denktas soon and if you can get rid of tassos then there is a chance that we can unite our island but mark my words this will NOT happen with tassos in power.

so yes piratis, Denktash = Papadopoulos as they both come out from the same toilet and are both s**t for cyprus and all cypriots.

And all these human rights you keep talking about that he supposedly is protecting, then why does he stop the north from prospering which would help unification, which is crushing the tc people or are they not entiteled to the same human rights that you talk about.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:05 pm

he asks instead for unreasonable demands


Such as?

tassos is terrorist turned leader and all tc know of his EOKA past


Terrorist? Why? Tell me what exactly he did that would classify him as such? Do you have anything more than vague statements and mad throwing?

why does he stop the north from prospering which would help unification


Why do TCs stop the north from prospering? Famagusta was one of the most prosperous cities of the east Mediterranean before the occupation. The occupied Cyprus has over 60% of the resources of the island.
Why do TCs stop themselves and the Greek Cypriot refugees from prospering? Because they want prosperity for themselves but not for the refugees?
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Postby -mikkie2- » Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:54 pm

No he asks instead for unreasonable demands and uses blackmail to get what he wants


What demands of his are unreasonable?

How exactly is he blackmailing to get what he wants?

Is it not Turkey that does not want to discuss the Cyprus problem before Dec 17th?

As for him being a terrorist, well he was a lawyer that headed the political wing of Eoka.
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Postby metecyp » Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:47 pm

Piratis wrote:Not many people listen to Denctash, but he is still your "president".

That's going to change very soon, just watch.
Piratis wrote:You keep saying that Denctash = Papadopoulos. Thats totally wrong because Papadopoulos doesn't ask for anything illegal, he doesn't want to violate any of Turkish Cypriots human rights.

Denktash = Papadopoulos in a sense that they both serve for partition. On the surface, Papadopoulos might seem to want legal things such as return of all refugees, pure democracy, but anyone that knows the dynamics of Cyprus problem is aware that not all refugees will be able to return, we won't have 1 man 1 vote, there will be balance of power between two sides. However, Papadopoulos keeps insisting on what is not achievable (just like Denktash keeps insisting on not achievable, recognition) and the only outcome is going to be partition.

As you very well know, legality means nothing if it's not reality. "Legally" the RoC is a bicommunal republic but in reality, it has been GC Republic for 40 years now.
Piratis wrote:So stop confusing things.

I'm not the only one that claims this. Most TCs don't trust Papadopoulos and if you really cared about TCs, you could at least try to understand why that was the case.

You should start seeing things as they are. Tell me one thing that Papadopoulos did since he came to power that brought TCs and GCs closer. Can you? I don't think so.
mikkie wrote:As for him being a terrorist, well he was a lawyer that headed the political wing of Eoka.

He's as guilty as Denktash is for being a member of TMT. Yet another reason why Denktash=Papadopoulos.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:58 pm

To all those who celebrate today, I say long live your pseudostate, founded on stolen properties on theft, on illegality, on unjustice and on an invasion. Kai eis anotera! (=And [wish you] even higher [achievents]) . To those who want a partnership, I say, first disolve your partnership with the settlers and the yurukies, then come and ask for our partnership.

To those who think that Talat is different from Denktash, I ask who was in the pseudo government when the pseudo state was declared?
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