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[miltiades]

Perecles , I think your argument on buying property in occupied part of Cyprus has been well demolished by others therefore I shall not add any more other than to say , why is it the Bits are constantly being ripped off in Spain and other parts of the world by sharks who promise legal deeds that are not Worth the paper they are written on.
The are two types of people who buy [property } in the occupied North. The genuinely naive and generally not that well off , and the greedy developers who will manipulate the less well off Brits and rip them off. Come solution day , and it will come , don't cry your eyes out at losing your investment.

[stuballstu]

Ohh my God.

Perecles has stated he would buy a house legally, which in the eyes of the world would be either Turkish or foreign title pre 1974.

Now Piratis is spouting propaganda, Lysi shouts off on the anti-british thing, TonyC obviously hasnt read Perecles original post properly and miltiades is assuming that Perecles will loose his "legal" investment.

Parranoia???? or Scaremoungering???? or are some people just plain ignorant????

[miltiades]

stuballstu , put your money where your mouth is , buy some property in the North that you know to be owned by a Greek Cypriot and receive title deeds that no bank in the world apart from a Turkish one would accept as security .I can go to any bank in the UK and offer my property in Cyprus as collateral , can the buyers of dodgy land and property do the same. The passing of time does not make illegally possessed property legal. The land in the RoC owned by Turkish Cypriots is still owned by the rightful owners. Please can you also confirm that , Greek churches in the occupied part are still churches or have they been converted into brothels , casinos or whatever else. I believe that the mosques in the RoC are still mosques.
The "TRNC" is issuing "legal" documents whose legality outside the "TRNC" IS NULL AND VOID.
The world has moved on since the Ottoman empire days , there is a democratic system in operation in all European countries .None ot these countries has recognised Tyrkey's creation as a legal nation, those naive Brits who invest their lifesavings in stolen property will one day regret their naivety.
CYPRUS IS ONE NATION FOR ALL CYPRIOTS TO LIVE IN PEACE WITH SELF RESPECT AND DIGNITY.THERE IS NO ROOM FOR STATE TERRORISM .

[stuballstu]

Miltiades

I am not disputing what you have said. I have seen some Greek churches in the north, some are well looked after and some are at best derelict. I cant say if any have been turned into Casinos, brothels or anything else.

What my point was that Perecles stated that they were going to buy a property "legally" and even went on to state only a pre 1974 Turkish deed.

A few others including Piratis went on to spout more propaganda as he does at every opportunity, Lysi has a major chip about everyone British, and TonyC gave a lecture on not affording a place is better than buying someone elses. Now you see what i mean about paranoia and scaremoungering?

Having said that i have friends who recently looked at buying somewhere in the north and asked my advice. I told them to buy safe deeds like foreign owned or Turkish owned prior to 1974. They almost bought a place as they were told by the estate agent and the builder that it was on Turkish title. Just before they signed the contract with the solicitor, she (the solicitor) told them it was "Esdeger" which is exchange land as she had handled the sale of another house on the same development. She then went on to tell them this was a tactic now used as "technically speaking" they are Turkish title as the deeds they would get would be issued from the "TRNC". So now some land and properties are sold giving the impression that they are safe legal recognised titles.

So even when potential buyers ask the right questions they are not always given the right answers.

And no they did not buy that property and now have no intentions of doing so purely because they were blatantly lied to.

From what i have heard and read about Home buyers pressure group on the web and press it is practicies like these which they are trying to stop as well as other things. If british or others decide to buy houses on land on refugee land then it is up to them individually if they want to take the risk. Until there is any prospect of a settlement then unfortunately it is a practice which will continue as Cyprus is as far away from a settlement as it ever has been.

[miltiades]

Let us hope that the day for a settlement , joy and happiness for all of us , is not that far away.
I have a lot of confidence in the majority of Cypriots who have a solid sense of duty towards their country , and a lot of common sense to drive them towards our goal. We need from both sides further public expressions of Cypriotness , to include the removal of foreign flags from official and communal ares and start telling each other that under the Cyprus flag we will look for that elusive solution. Both sides are letting the people down by not highlighting the things that unite us , and Cyprus is the ultimate uniting force , its tangible and waiting to be embraced by all having been cast aside for years by both communities

[perecles]

Thanks for clarifying that point on my behalf. I didnt want to get embroiled in a slanging match with anyone, but must admit I was a bit miffed by the careful editing / selection of the post I made to satisfy other peoples agenda's.

[stuballstu]

No probs Perecles, i am just happy to point out some facts. In fact Miltiades is actually one of the most sensible posters on this forum who actually who has a genuine love with all things Cypriot.

Miltiades

I actually agree with everything you have wrote in your last post. Sir you are a gentleman!

[lysi]

this person likes selling stolen land in cyprus and is a wanted man for tax evasion i belive he also is a convicted criminal..any one who wants to buy and property off of this person needs there head tested as he is jst a criminal.he took deposit money from people for houses in northern cyprus and then done a runner with it....

Can any pro occupation people or turkish cypriots living in the occupied areas tell me why your puppet state lets so many british criminals like GARY ROBB live and do business in the north ? most of the property being built by these WANTED criminals are funded from the sale of hard drugs.

[unique_earthling]

God your so boring Lysi, like a stuck gramophone record, predictable and one tract. Got anything more interesting to say?

[stuballstu]

Lysi

You seem so well versed in everything to do with Gary Robb and the Homebuyers Pressure group. What is your links with them? Are you their accountants ? Most of your posts seem so well informed on the financial positions of these people so is it speculation or do you know?