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[Kikapu]

I suppose the fact that blacks might be committing disproportionate to their numbers crimes doesn't enter the equation.

Your statement was on how fair the court systems were to every citizen in Western Civilization, but since you want to extend the subject as to why more blacks in your opinion might be committing disproportionate amount of crime, as if you did not know the answer already, I will get back to you another time on this subject to see how well the Western Civilization that you embrace so much treated the blacks. It's late at night to go into it right now.

[miltiades]

Well would you have preferred Russia leading the world today , or perhaps the Mullahs of Iran .
And more blacks committing disproportionate by their numbers crimes is not My opinion . It is a fact !
The treatment of blacks by the Western world was abysmal but the West moves on and makes amends , we do not stay buried in the past , like stoning people to death or chopping limps off. , or killing our offspring in order to retain "Honour " in the family . I'm proud of the Western world civilization and long may it continue to improve and continually develop.

[andri_cy]

Kikapu , so the courts in the UK , Germany , France , USA , Japan , Canada , Australia , Sweden , Switzerland , Austria are according to you not treating all citizens equally. I rest my case , the rest of the points are too damned childish for me to reply too. Just before I finish , you don't think that we have freedom of press in the UK , I presume that you can back this up can you.

Thats whay there're many more blacks in jail in the USA and death ROW than whites, in precentage wise. Poor people end up in jails and not the rich one's who can pay for good defence, for starters.

I agree. You can take as a reference point the OJ simpson and the Michael Jackson cases. If you have the money for a good lawyer and connections, in the west it will take you as far as the moon.

[miltiades]

Another 50 plus innocents are murdered by a suicide murdering psychopath in Iraq , where this time , outside a Shi'ite Shrine . I'm certain zyperzokyli would find some way to equate this barbaric act to some other monstrosity.
This bastard did not know these people he was too much in a harry to get up there and join the rest of his accomplices . The mind boggles.

[cypezokyli]

let me ask oyu mitliades , how often did these things happen before 2003 ?

[miltiades]

In Iraq or elsewhere ? 9/11 before 2003 ? wont mention the suicide killings in Israel because you will only say what about what Israel is doing.
I absolutely detest a human who has not one shred of self respect for his own life and that of his fellow humans .The suicide phenomenon is new to the world and is speared on by an ideology that preaches hatred and brainwashes the participants in this abhorrent act in believing that their actions in taking life in this most cruel and barbaric fashion are rewarded in after life. The premeditated indiscriminate butchery of innocent people , men women and children is incomparable to any other crime, because the perpetrators are considered by their supporters as martyrs, for having killed and maimed the innocent.
Hence my immense contempt of religious doctrine designed to create divisions , hatred and murder. Any religious doctrine . The 53 innocents that were killed yesterday leave behind their loved ones , some no doubt were fathers and mothers whose children are now orphans , some have lost limps rendering them into a life of misery and suffering. These are unjustifiable acts that should be condemned by every civilized human on earth.

[cypezokyli]

the suicide phenomenon is not new.
let me remind you that the japanese were using the same method against the americans. and 1.had the americans not attacked civilians 2. were not afraid from the red army that decided to turn against them - they were more than willing to continue those attacks.
even in the greek history we ve had the same stories. remember after the attempt to escape from mesolloggi , some people stayed , and decided to blow themselves up and take with them "as many turks as possible". i cannot remember that being presented as sth not decent , but actually sth very brave.

and honestly.... i dont know how many times i have to tell you that civilians were targeted IN ALL WARS IN HISTORY (the most famous example is in thoukydides ) . there is no civilized war. iraqis are just killing each other and the americans the same way it happened throughout time , and place.

[miltiades]

OK , wont argue with you any more , I can see how you admire this murderers. Look cant you just get it that all the examples that you give above are nothing what so ever to do with what is happening now. The Japanese targeted American ships , in Greek history they targeted the enemy , ie the army ,. THEY DID NOT BLOW UP PEOPLE IN F..ING CHURCHES , CEMETERIES , RESTAURANTS , SHRINES , SCHOOLS , BUSES , WEDDINGS ,SHOPS , JOB CENTRES , MARKETS etc etc.
Are you doing this to annoy me , can't you see the vast difference .

[cypezokyli]

OK , wont argue with you any more , I can see how you admire this murderers. Look cant you just get it that all the examples that you give above are nothing what so ever to do with what is happening now. The Japanese targeted American ships , in Greek history they targeted the enemy , ie the army ,. THEY DID NOT BLOW UP PEOPLE IN F..ING CHURCHES , CEMETERIES , RESTAURANTS , SHRINES , SCHOOLS , BUSES , WEDDINGS ,SHOPS , JOB CENTRES , MARKETS etc etc.
Are you doing this to annoy me , can't you see the vast difference .

i guess you are reffering to this wedding
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0, ... 50,00.html

i agree with you it is sad.

(i hope you dont judge my sources this time as well - it is a western , civiliced newspaper , from the country you are living in )

[miltiades]

This was an accident , it was not PREMIDITATED , and it was condemned by every nation on earth.
I think you genuinely ought to re examine your perception of events and perhaps rethink your philosophy.
I wonder in fact when these suicide killers are about to embark on their murderous journey , do they have people who share your views as instructors.Here we are boys , the Ancient Greeks did , The Japanese pilots did , EOKA would have done it but they did not have cameras , or foreign aid workers so they abandoned the idea. Lets not forget those horrid Americans. So come on martyrs , see that funeral procession , lets give them a bit more grief, and what about those people queuing up for a job , lets make it their last Que. In the meantime those bastards praying , well lets get them too.

I hope you are not serious , can I ask are you male or female , not that it matters but curiosity.