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[erolz]

This just shows on how much we got used to the crap that we hear from Turkey and TCs that don't even bother us much any more.

When Papadopoulos said something that was not true, TCs got it, repeat it, acted on it etc.
Why we don't do the same?
Why we don't do the same when they tell us that the invasion was a "peace operation" or when they try to erase the terrorist actions of TMT and blame GCs only for the events of 63-68? Why don't we do the same when they say that "TRNC" is legal and all the other crap they say every day?

As was pointed out at the time of the original discussion on this - but once more

Having a different version or view of events in the past is not the same as denying the past all togeather. Saying the events of 74 was a 'peace operation' or saying it was an 'invasion' is a matter of opinion and viewpoint. Saying that no TC was killed by GC in the period 63-74 is not a different viewpoint - it is a blatant and unsupportable lie based on the denial of history. That this denial of fact was made by someone who claims to represent all Cypriot people only makes it more depressing.

Let me give you an example.

You say prawns are the best food on the earth.
I say prawns are not the best food on earth.

This is a difference of opinion.

You say prawns are the best food on earth.
I say prawns do not exist.

This is not a difference of opinion - this is a denial of fact.

I wonder how used you are to TC and Turkish crap, that you would ignore a statement by a TC or Turkish leader that not a single GC was killed by TC/T in the events of 74. I suspect there would be much (justifed) 'outrage' by yourself and others if such a statement was made and as much (though probably much more) 'fuss' would be made over this than that which has been made over TP statement to date - which actualy has recived very little 'fuss'.

None of your examples above of TC/T lies are comparable to this statement by TP. Still if you have no means of legitimately defending a position (or statement) - then go to the next option - 'justify' the position on the basis that we (TC/T) are worse so your 'bad' actions are irrelevant. (the old 'our wrong' is justifed by your greater wrongs).

[pantelis]

Hello Erol,
Welcome back. Where did you disappear at, all this time?

[erolz]

Hello Erol,
Welcome back. Where did you disappear at, all this time?

Was in the UK and briefly Amsterdam (at this conference http://www.europeftthcouncil.com/?id=25)

[Piratis]

Having a different version or view of events in the past is not the same as denying the past all togeather. Saying the events of 74 was a 'peace operation' or saying it was an 'invasion' is a matter of opinion and viewpoint.

I am sorry, but destorting the truth is at least as bad if not worst than denying it.

Somebody that kills people and then denies it is a killer. Somebody that kills and then says that he did it because he wanted to save the people that he murdered and send them to paradise, is a killer and psycho at the same time.

having a "different viewpoint" is not an excuse for anything. The crime is crime, period.

I wonder how used you are to TC and Turkish crap, that you would ignore a statement by a TC or Turkish leader that not a single GC was killed by TC/T in the events of 74. I suspect there would be much (justifed) 'outrage'

No, the outrage is much bigger when the Turks try to present their crimes as something noble. Thats about 100 times worst than denying them.

[erolz]

I am sorry, but destorting the truth is at least as bad if not worst than denying it.

There is no need to be sorry for your bizzare views - I am well used to them by now.

So you think TC/T saying there was no military action in Cyprus in 74, no GC lost there homes and no GC were killed by TC/T is the same as, or even less 'bad' than saying the action was a peace operation to secure the security of the TC people? The lengths you will go to in order to defend the undefendable really are quite amazing Piratis.

having a "different viewpoint" is not an excuse for anything. The crime is crime, period.

Er when were we talking about if something was a crime or not? We were talking about the statement of TP and his (totaly unsupportable) claim that no TC were killed by GC in period 63-74.

No, the outrage is much bigger when the Turks try to present their crimes as something noble. Thats about 100 times worst than denying them.

Really Piratis just stop for one moment and think about what you are saying here.

What you are saying is that you would 100 times less 'upset' if TC/T were to deny there was any military action in 74, no GC lost their homes in 74 and no GC died at hands of TC/T in 74 than if TC/T say the action of 74 was a 'noble' act on behlaf of Turkey. Just ridiculous.