Erdogan Urges France To Drop Armenian Genocide Recognition
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| magikthrill wrote: |
| TCs also had 33% of the governmental positions in the RoC. So does this mean that no GC harmed any TC??? |
We had 33% of government positions until GC stole them and our right to them from us and started to kill us and drive us from our homes.
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Thing before you speak/post. |
Good advise - I wonder if you will can take it as well as give it? |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:17 pm |
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| erolz wrote: |
We had 33% of government positions until GC stole them and our right to them from us and started to kill us and drive us from our homes.
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Nice one - sided argument. This is the WHOLE story right erol?
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Thing before you speak/post. |
Good advise - I wonder if you will can take it as well as give it?[/quote]
right back at ya |
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| Re: So tolerated | |
| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:25 pm |
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| magikthrill wrote: |
| Nice one - sided argument. This is the WHOLE story right erol? |
but your statement
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| TCs also had 33% of the governmental positions in the RoC. |
that mine was response too was not one sided and was the whole story?
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right back at ya |
I did not go around dishing out advise (in a patronising manner), I merely reponded to you doing so that you might like to consider taking your own advise. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:34 pm |
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so whats the other side of 33% of TCs had gov'tt positions. OF course they were then kicked out/forced to leave. That was my point!
unadmena (however you spell it) said that because Armenians had high ranking positions in the ottoman empire the Ottomans had no reason to harm them.
ANd I responded by saying, so the TCs also had positions in gov't jobs. So by using his logic, this means that GCs did not want to harm TCs. Which is obviosuly not the case. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:04 pm |
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| The Orthodox Church was also freed from centuries of control by the Latin hierarchy and its previous tradition of independence reasserted under a revived archbishopric. On the other hand, the Catholic Church of the Crusader and Venetian rulers were expelled. Its building were confiscated and converted into mosques, or were sold to the Orthodox Church. Catholics on the island were given the choice of conversion (either to Islam or Orthodoxy) or exile. |
From a North Cyprus website.
Who had the authority to expel the Crusader's and Venetians?
Who had the authority to confiscate the Catholic churches?
Who had the authority to force conversions?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:10 pm |
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| The Orthodox Church was also freed from centuries of control by the Latin hierarchy and its previous tradition of independence reasserted under a revived archbishopric. On the other hand, the Catholic Church of the Crusader and Venetian rulers were expelled. Its building were confiscated and converted into mosques, or were sold to the Orthodox Church. Catholics on the island were given the choice of conversion (either to Islam or Orthodoxy) or exile. |
From a North Cyprus website.
Who had the authority to expel the Crusader's and Venetians?
Who had the authority to confiscate the Catholic churches?
Who had the authority to force conversions?
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Forced Conversion? Don't the Muslims in Egypt do that all the time to the Christian Copts? Glass houses..... |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:37 pm |
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| magikthrill wrote: |
so whats the other side of 33% of TCs had gov'tt positions. OF course they were then kicked out/forced to leave. That was my point!
unadmena (however you spell it) said that because Armenians had high ranking positions in the ottoman empire the Ottomans had no reason to harm them.
ANd I responded by saying, so the TCs also had positions in gov't jobs. So by using his logic, this means that GCs did not want to harm TCs. Which is obviosuly not the case. |
OK I did misunderstand you - appologies.
However now I do understand (i hope) you I think you have missed unnamedmans point. His point is that kurds are integrated into turkish political life and still are - thus this is very different to the situation with TC who had to fight for a right to have any say in political life and then having gained that were forced from it anyway. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:46 pm |
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| erolz wrote: |
OK I did misunderstand you - appologies.
However now I do understand (i hope) you I think you have missed unnamedmans point. His point is that kurds are integrated into turkish political life and still are - thus this is very different to the situation with TC who had to fight for a right to have any say in political life and then having gained that were forced from it anyway. |
so is it not true then that Kurds are dmeanding political equality (no sarcasm, just a question)? |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:05 pm |
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| magikthrill wrote: |
| so is it not true then that Kurds are dmeanding political equality (no sarcasm, just a question)? |
Certainly some are but how representative of Kurds in general in Turkey they are I just do not know. It's kinda like the Basques in Spain and France I guess. Some certainly want indepdnace from spain but there is much evidence that the majority of Basques do not want this. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:52 pm |
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| erolz wrote: |
Certainly some are but how representative of Kurds in general in Turkey they are I just do not know. It's kinda like the Basques in Spain and France I guess. Some certainly want indepdnace from spain but there is much evidence that the majority of Basques do not want this. |
fair enough. so our lack of knowledge on the matter will lead to a civilized ending of this conversation  |
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