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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:15 pm

Turkey (( * wrote:The Turkish archives have showed that there was no genocide, in fact it showed innocent Turks were killed! But when Turkey officially invited Armenia to open its archives to public a few weeks ago they declined the invitation! If there is genocide there should be evidence in the their archives, and one thing i dont get; if Armenians are trying so hard to make the world to beleive there was a genocide why dont you open your archives why are you so scared!?!?!?


That's what your government wants you to think buddy.
Many international scholars have used and are still using Armenian archives. Armenians unlike Turks have nothing to hide.






Turkish Scholar Uses Armenian Archives For Ottoman History Research


Yeftan Turkyilmaz is the first and so far the only Turkish scholar given access to Armenia’s state archives and he believes the reason for that is more simple than one might think.

“There are no people in Turkey who can work with these archives,” the young doctoral candidate explains in perfect Armenian. “I just don’t know of any other Turkish scholar who speaks Armenian. That is the main obstacle.”

Turkyilmaz, who was taught the language by an Armenian teacher in Istanbul, pursues a Ph. D. in history at the University of North Carolina. His doctoral thesis will focus on the creation and activities of Turkish, Kurdish and Armenian nationalist parties during the final decades of the Ottoman Empire. He began looking for relevant documents kept at the Armenian National Archive on May 2 and says he has had no trouble accessing and photocopying them.

“Interestingly, people in Turkey believe that Armenia’s archives are closed, especially for Turkish citizens,” says Turkyilmaz. “That is not true. Here I am easily working with them.”

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is certainly one of those people. As part of his government’s efforts to counter international pressure for Turkish recognition of the 1915 mass killings and deportations of Ottoman Armenians as genocide, Erdogan has repeatedly stated in recent weeks that Ankara has declassified its Ottoman-era archives and urged Yerevan to follow suit.

Armenia, however, maintains that its archives have always been open to Turkish and other foreign researchers. “Many foreign scholars have used them to date and none of them was Turkish,” an Armenian Foreign Ministry spokesman said just days before Turkyilmaz arrived in Yerevan.

The Armenian archive director, Amatuni Virabian, reiterated in an RFE/RL interview this week that any Turkish scholar can have unfettered access to its approximately 12,000 genocide-related documents. Most of them contain information on tens of thousands of genocide survivors that found refuge in Armenia between 1915 and 1918.

Turkyilmaz says that as far he is concerned, Virabian and other Armenian archive officials have been true to their words. “They have helped me a lot and I have no problems interacting with them,” he tells RFE/RL.

Armenian historians, for their part, remain skeptical about Turkey’s regular pledges to open its Ottoman-era archives. They also suggest that the Turkish archives have long been purged of any incriminating evidence.

“Sadly, young people in Turkey know nothing about the subject,” Turkyilmaz says. “All they know is nationalist things written in school textbooks. And because they lack that knowledge, they believe that the Armenians plot bad things against their country.”

Will Turkey recognize the Armenian genocide in the near future? “No, it won’t,” says the Turkish scholar. “But maybe future generations will address the subject in a more reasonable and calm manner.”
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Postby Yiannis » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:17 pm

Hey, welcome to the Cyprus Forum kardesh :)

And now let the debate begin 8)
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Postby Murtaza » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:20 pm

Yiannis :lol: :lol:

Yerevan

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=6511

Read some your peoples,
You should realy decide what is more primary for you, To take revenge from Turkey or Your nation survival.

where are you from? Yarevan?
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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:23 pm

I'm from Yerevan, Armenia. And what was your previous point?
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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:32 pm

By the way a news update the guy comes to Armenia to study Armenian archives and decides to smuggle Armenian antique books on his way back.

Turkish researcher detained in Armenia for smuggling out antique books
Jun 18, 2005, 19:10 GMT

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Text of report by Turkish TRT 1 television on 18 June

Researcher Yektan Turkyilmaz has been detained at the airport in Yerevan on charges of trying to smuggle antique books out of the country. According to a statement by an official of the Armenian National Security Service, Turkyilmaz is being accused of trying to smuggle covertly out of Armenia books dating from between the 17th and 20th centuries.

It was stated that Turkyilmaz, who is a graduate of the Duke University in North Carolina, is the first Turkish citizen allowed to conduct research in the Armenian National Archives and that had been the purpose of his visit to Armenia.
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Postby Murtaza » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:33 pm

YeReVaN wrote:I'm from Yerevan, Armenia. And what was your previous point?


I want to tell you, you(Armenians) are wasting your energy for wrong cause. Pls read link I gave.
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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:51 pm

Murtaza wrote:
YeReVaN wrote:I'm from Yerevan, Armenia. And what was your previous point?


I want to tell you, you(Armenians) are wasting your energy for wrong cause. Pls read link I gave.


Whatever man, you are wasting your energy telling me whats right and what's wrong, because you have a loooooooot of issues to deal with because giving me any advice.
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Postby Murtaza » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:58 pm

Yerevan, Even If there were genocide, What Turkish goverment did is not wrong. And I know we have a lot issues. I know we are guilty because we killed or couldnt protected our people(That armenians are citizen of ottomans). And Infact I have sympaty to Armenians.So I wish to see Armenians existance for a long time.

By the way, Do you know what is that books related?
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Postby YeReVaN » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:07 am

Yerevan, Even If there were genocide, What Turkish goverment did is not wrong


So you think it is not wrong that the Turkish government committed a genocide?
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Postby Murtaza » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:10 am

No I mean, Turkey goverment doing right for not accepting genocide.
It dont give any benefit to Turkey. And you know Goverments have no moral issues.

But My idea is Turkey should pay for what she did.Should give lands back or money for it. (Not Armenia but people who exiled from their lands)
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