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[bill cobbett]

How did you calculate 12%? population % does not equal land % get this into your thick skulls. what if 1 person owned 20% of the island but was included in the 12% population?

Well two things...

The CY Church, a single legal entity as the largest by far private landowner prob does own 20% or thereabouts of the Occupied Area, so by your own greedy way of thinking, by your own reckoning, 12% is very, very generous... doh!

... and secondly and not sooooo long ago you were welcoming the Illegal Settlers with open arms and with free houses as part of your alleged salvation so that now the Never Had It So Good They Piss Off In Droves CYs associated with any northern zone are down to 12% of total CY population... oh and only right now that those illegal settlers who qualify get the bulk of any northern zone.

[Lordo]

How did you calculate 12%? population % does not equal land % get this into your thick skulls. what if 1 person owned 20% of the island but was included in the 12% population?

Well two things...

The CY Church, a single legal entity as the largest by far private landowner prob does own 20% or thereabouts of the Occupied Area, so by your own greedy way of thinking, by your own reckoning, 12% is very, very generous... doh!

... and secondly and not sooooo long ago you were welcoming the Illegal Settlers with open arms and with free houses as part of your alleged salvation so that now the Never Had It So Good They Piss Off In Droves CYs associated with any northern zone are down to 12% of total CY population... oh and only right now that those illegal settlers who qualify get the bulk of any northern zone.

boy are you brainwashed or what.

are you not forgetting the properties of the people your people have killed or were driven out of cyprus. you think you will be allowed to keep that. there is only one way to find out. how much land did the tcs have before the crooks at the roc got their hands on the land registry then fair exchnage on the free market. you got the stomach for some home truths. what have you got to loose.

wake up my friends before it is too late and you get nothing back.

[bill cobbett]

How did you calculate 12%? population % does not equal land % get this into your thick skulls. what if 1 person owned 20% of the island but was included in the 12% population?

Well two things...

The CY Church, a single legal entity as the largest by far private landowner prob does own 20% or thereabouts of the Occupied Area, so by your own greedy way of thinking, by your own reckoning, 12% is very, very generous... doh!

... and secondly and not sooooo long ago you were welcoming the Illegal Settlers with open arms and with free houses as part of your alleged salvation so that now the Never Had It So Good They Piss Off In Droves CYs associated with any northern zone are down to 12% of total CY population... oh and only right now that those illegal settlers who qualify get the bulk of any northern zone.

boy are you brainwashed or what.

are you not forgetting the properties of the people your people have killed or were driven out of cyprus. you think you will be allowed to keep that. there is only one way to find out. how much land did the tcs have before the crooks at the roc got their hands on the land registry then fair exchnage on the free market. you got the stomach for some home truths. what have you got to loose.

wake up my friends before it is too late and you get nothing back.

HDY!!! ... suggest i had anything, anything at all to do with any killings... what sort of flipping foul-mouthed idiotic allegation is that...???

The Land Registry is a double check system...

It maintains the definitive record, the only record recognised by such as the ECHR and owners have the insurance check of Certified Kochans kept in their own possession, so enough with your propaganda nonsense straight out of the mouths of your masters in Ankara.

12% for any northern zone as it stands today, ... and that figure will be going down as more and more CYs are ousted by the Illegal Settlers, troublesome CYs encouraged to leave by the policies of Turkey and its Occupation Regime in favour of the We Do What the Leaders Tell Us Illegal Settlers.

[Viewpoint]

Bill give up Mr you have completely lost the plot.

[repulsewarrior]

"...the plot"

indeed a story concocted in Turkey.

...just the facts, take a look around you.

what Cypriots built from one third of the population homeless is really quite astounding, don't you think?
...even though they are the "Greeks".

what have the "Turks" done in the mean time? how is it, despite the embargo, that such a tiny population have become parasites, according to their founder/benefactor, a State many many many times bigger, and willfully defending "Turkishness" against what is not "Turkish" enough?
...what is it that the north's population is not doing, are they not "Turkish" enough, what can they do?

at some point, you too vp, will say asiktir to "them", or die. question is, do you love Cyprus, this land, more than being Turkish?

as for Greeks as a majority, it is irrelevant, it is the minorities which hold the sway in a Democracy. what is more important is an end to the corruption, when we, united as a population are not so easily subjected to this myth, "Turks" are helpless in a Cyprus whose majority are fanatics and "Greek".

[Viewpoint]

"...the plot"

indeed a story concocted in Turkey.

...just the facts, take a look around you.

what Cypriots built from one third of the population homeless is really quite astounding, don't you think?
...even though they are the "Greeks".

what have the "Turks" done in the mean time? how is it, despite the embargo, that such a tiny population have become parasites, according to their founder/benefactor, a State many many many times bigger, and willfully defending "Turkishness" against what is not "Turkish" enough?
...what is it that the north's population is not doing, are they not "Turkish" enough, what can they do?

at some point, you too vp, will say asiktir to "them", or die. question is, do you love Cyprus, this land, more than being Turkish?

as for Greeks as a majority, it is irrelevant, it is the minorities which hold the sway in a Democracy. what is more important is an end to the corruption, when we, united as a population are not so easily subjected to this myth, "Turks" are helpless in a Cyprus whose majority are fanatics and "Greek".

Why not ahsiktir GCs? just ask yourself were the TCs better off with GCs than the Turks, travel north and see for yourself...what did we have with GCs absolutely nothing we were discriminated and looked down upon as second class citizens.

[Lordo]

no repilsivewarrior he has indeed lost the plot some time ago with the rest of his fanatic friernds. makarios offered 25% decades ago to form the bbf which dengtash refused. talat had it in hand and had the historians looking into the percentage pf private property which is nearer 20% add to that the government owned land of 7% and bobs your uncle my friend. 27%. you either take it or leave 37.5%. but unfortunately Xstofias refuzed to do the decent thing and went around playing footsy. never mind we may get another chance in the next 50 years. we hope.

it really is not rocket science.

[repulsewarrior]

the figures are irrelevant, they can be figured amongst the Cypriot Constituencies themselves.

...what must change for there to be a Cyprus is the Cypriot State to exist, rather than a Greek State, because a state exists that is Greek.

if you are thinking about splitting the island in two to satisfy the needs of the worst elements in our respective societies, think again. only a Republic can secure Freedom, whether your Liberty is important or not to you, because we are Individuals after all. things cannot remain the same, being the most militarised place on earth is not natural, especially when it serves no purpose good. you guys don't get it. Cypriots can change the world with a change in their thinking, if Cyprus comes first, and where within it many Constituencies express this same Goodwill while sustaining their own distinctions.

[Lordo]

the figures are irrelevant, they can be figured amongst the Cypriot Constituencies themselves.

...what must change for there to be a Cyprus is the Cypriot State to exist, rather than a Greek State, because a state exists that is Greek.

if you are thinking about splitting the island in two to satisfy the needs of the worst elements in our respective societies, think again. only a Republic can secure Freedom, whether your Liberty is important or not to you, because we are Individuals after all. things cannot remain the same, being the most militarised place on earth is not natural, especially when it serves no purpose good. you guys don't get it. Cypriots can change the world with a change in their thinking, if Cyprus comes first, and where within it many Constituencies express this same Goodwill while sustaining their own distinctions.

you can only wait for a peace agreement for so long. this is beyond a joke. it is over. the sooner people realise it the sooner we will all move on.

[repulsewarrior]

vp:

Why not ahsiktir GCs? just ask yourself were the TCs better off with GCs than the Turks, travel north and see for yourself...what did we have with GCs absolutely nothing we were discriminated and looked down upon as second class citizens.

...dude, the last time i was in the north, it was 1980-81. i saw the broken glass in the window that was clean, i saw the rubble lived in where it was not Cypriot, i met the scowling carpetbaggers. respectfully, there are many stories depicting the goodwill of Cypriots since the gates have opened, where people see themselves as neighbours, and in the same distress; in that sense do not dishonour this Grace, they are not just a "them", "Greeks" or "Turks".

...and why not asiktir Turkey, you ask yourself, because your life should be far better, now. you remain a second class citizen looked down upon, by the same elite and administration who claim they bring you Peace with their Proxy War. why not Freedom, Sovereignty, not just the Liberty interlocutors offer?

...the Turkish State indeed is a credit to the Human Race, but it's Government still remains mired, still resisting the change that is the Modern Age, now beyond, into the Age of Information.

@Lordo, it's over and move on, give up; what are you talking about?

...indeed, Cypriots can change the world, if they change themselves.