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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby denizaksulu » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:45 pm

Perhaps the Kemalist ideoloji had no room for the Sufî's.
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby tsukoui » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:57 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Perhaps the Kemalist ideoloji had no room for the Sufî's.


Yes, that was the impression I got, but I still don't understand because Cyprus was British by then. What power did the Kemalists have in Cyprus during the British occupation?
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby denizaksulu » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:21 pm

It could be the rise of Turkish Nationalismin Cyprus. It took a while for the leaders of the Turkish Cyp community to follow new Turkish reforms re: The modern Latin alphabet.
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby halil » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:46 am

denizaksulu wrote:Perhaps the Kemalist ideoloji had no room for the Sufî's.


"Before the first world war there were almost 100,000 disciples of the Mevlevi order throughout the Ottoman empire. But in 1925, as part of his desire to create a modern, western-orientated, secular state, Atatürk banned all the different Sufi orders and closed their tekkes. Pious foundations were suspended and their endowments expropriated; Sufi hospices were closed and their contents seized; all religious titles were abolished and dervish clothes outlawed. ... In 1937, Atatürk went even further, prohibiting by law any form of traditional music, especially the playing of the ney, the Sufis' reed flute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2005/no ... anreview26

What i understood from the readings İt was banned in Turkey but it was active in Cyprus till 1954.
I have no clear idea why it is ended ....may be there was no follower left accept dergah of the Sheik nazim.
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby kurupetos » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:58 am

denizaksulu wrote:Perhaps the Kemalist ideoloji had no room for the Sufî's.

Hopefully they will exterminate them. :wink:
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:42 am

kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Perhaps the Kemalist ideoloji had no room for the Sufî's.

Hopefully they will exterminate them. :wink:


Why exterminate anyone KP? Not understanding is no excuse for exterminating anyone. :evil:
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:59 am

Attempting to read the article…

“Turkey starts Cyprus water supply project”

…on Hurriet results in:

Server Error in '/' Application.

In layman’s terms this means… water project not found! :lol:


Figuring out who is the dumbest is an impossible challenge…

Hellenia or Tourkmania? :?
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby umit07 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:Attempting to read the article…

“Turkey starts Cyprus water supply project”

…on Hurriet results in:

Server Error in '/' Application.

In layman’s terms this means… water project not found! :lol:


Figuring out who is the dumbest is an impossible challenge…

Hellenia or Tourkmania? :?


Try this link

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-starts-cyprus-water-supply-project.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32432&NewsCatID=345
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby halil » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:43 pm

napan be Ümit ?
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Shaykh Nazim came into conflict with pro-Atatürk governing body of the Turkish community of the island.....His repeated act of making the adhan in Arabic rather than the prescribed Turkish brought several lawsuits against him and there were some 114 cases lodged against him for crimes against the secular order.......Nevertheless all these were dropped shortly thereafter with the coming to power of Adnan Menderes in Turkey, whose government opted for a more tolerant approach to Islamic traditions.......
Shaykh Nazim moved back to Damascus in 1952, when he was wed to the daughter of one of the murids of Shaykh Abdullah Daghestani, Amina Adil, whose family came to settle in Syria after fleeing Soviet rule of their native Kazan. From that time, Shaykh Nazim took up residence in Damascus, and every year he would visit Cyprus for at least three months. The couple have two daughters and two sons.............
more to read from below links.
http://www.naqshbandi.org/chain/40.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazim_Al-Haqqani
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby kimon07 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:48 pm

umit07 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Attempting to read the article…

“Turkey starts Cyprus water supply project”

…on Hurriet results in:

Server Error in '/' Application.

In layman’s terms this means… water project not found! :lol:


Figuring out who is the dumbest is an impossible challenge…

Hellenia or Tourkmania? :?


Try this link

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-starts-cyprus-water-supply-project.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32432&NewsCatID=345


Let him get out of here. He is off topic as usual.
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