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Re: TURKEY TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST ISIS ?

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:More signs that the West is realising that it will get nowhere in the fight against DAESH by cooperating with the Islamofascist kleptocrats (whom they helped to install) in Ankara:


In policy shift, US opens direct talks with Syrian Kurds

The Obama administration acknowledged Thursday that a U.S. official for the first time met with a representative of a Syrian Kurdish political party that’s closely linked to a group on the U.S. terrorist list.

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said a U.S. diplomat met with a counterpart from the main Kurdish political party in Syria – the Democratic Union Party, better known by its Kurdish acronym as the PYD – to discuss the U.S.-led fight against the Islamic State. The PYD’s militia is engaged in fierce battles with the Islamist extremists, especially near the town of Kobani along the border with Turkey.

The direct talks are a sign of the shifting alliances created by the rise of the Islamic State.



http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/17/ ... irect.html


There is a major development in that Australia too had the Peshmerga, YPG and PKK on the terrorist list.

They have been removed from that list and had to be because the Australian SAS is deploying to provide the Peshmerga with tactical training. This was done a long time ago just prior to a RAAF Galaxy Heavy Lift landing at a Peshmerga controlled Aerodrome in order to deliver Russian made weapons which were sourced from another country (still have not been able to verify who).

It's about time the US took them off the terrorist list as well!!!! Idiots!!! :roll:


The way that the autonomous Kurdish regime in north Iraq, whose relations with Rojava have not been cordial, but whose relations with the AKP regime in Turkey are, is now taking a stronger position in favour of their fellow Kurds in Syria, is significant, in my opinion. It seems that peshmerga fighters are on their way to Kobane via Turkey.
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Re: TURKEY TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST ISIS ?

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:05 pm

The penny continues to drop:


Islamic State foiled in attempt to kidnap Syrian rebel leader in Turkey

Attempted kidnap of top Syrian rebel commander inside Turkey suggests the Islamic State is operating inside this Nato country with relative impunity

A top Syrian rebel commander was shot and wounded in an apparent kidnapping attempt by the Islamic State in a Turkish city, raising questions about Ankara’s readiness to stop jihadists operating on its soil

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... urkey.html
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Re: TURKEY TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST ISIS ?

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:32 pm

Peshmerga forces are reported to have crossed into Kobani from Turkish territory.
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Re: TURKEY TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST ISIS ?

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:41 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Peshmerga forces are reported to have crossed into Kobani from Turkish territory.


In fact, it seems they started doing so yesterday (Sunday) evening.
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Re: TURKEY TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST ISIS ?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:48 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Peshmerga forces are reported to have crossed into Kobani from Turkish territory.


Great news! :D

It may be premature, but allow me the luxury of saying that this is the beginning of the end for DAESH!
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Re: TURKEY TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST ISIS ?

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:59 pm

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Tim Drayton wrote:Peshmerga forces are reported to have crossed into Kobani from Turkish territory.


Great news! :D

It may be premature, but allow me the luxury of saying that this is the beginning of the end for DAESH!


On the Kurdish front, yes, but things are looking very bad in the Sunni heartlands of Iraq. Unless the Iraqi government can put an immediate stop to the activities of the Sunni militias that are out of control and acting towards Sunnis just like DAESH does to Shiites, the prospects do not look good there. I can see a truce or ceasefire between the Kurds and DAESH coming, but they look set to go on capturing territory in the Sunni parts of Iraq, I am afraid.
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Re: TURKEY TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST ISIS ?

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:12 am

DAESH appear not to have given up on Rojava, as they are attacking Kobane and Serekaniye again. If they had any sense, they would give up on the Kurdish front and focus all their efforts on capturing the Sunni Arab parts of Iraq, where they are going from strength to strength. Can you expect sense from people who literally believe that, if they are killed in battle, they will wake up surrounded by 72 virgins, though? Perhaps they can't accept the reality that they have been defeated in Kobane. This hubris may destroy them.
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Re: TURKEY TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST ISIS ?

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:32 am

Turkish President Erdoğan, returning from a visit to Afghanistan, made some very strong statements to journalists traveling with him that it would be totally unacceptable to arm the "terrorist" PYD. The plane in which he was flying landed in Istanbul at 01:10 on Sunday morning (19 October). At 01:30 (18:30 Washington time) a request was received from the USA for a direct call to be set up between Obama and Erdoğan. Interpreters were brought in and the call started at about 01:40, Turkish time. As we know, arms were then supplied to the PYD.

The following journalist has speculated that the Americans must have listened in on Erdoğan's statements on the plane:

http://www.radikal.com.tr/yazarlar/mura ... se-1220121
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Re: TURKEY TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST ISIS ?

Postby miltiades » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:10 am

One day soon the West will wake up and realize that you can not fit a square peg in a round hole.

The entire Turkish culture is alien to the West, gone are the days of strategic importance.

This is a nation that still tolerates honour killings, forced marraiges and brutal police actions.

What does the West possibly have in common with this nation, I wonder...
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Re: TURKEY TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST ISIS ?

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:40 am

miltiades wrote:One day soon the West will wake up and realize that you can not fit a square peg in a round hole.

The entire Turkish culture is alien to the West, gone are the days of strategic importance.

This is a nation that still tolerates honour killings, forced marraiges and brutal police actions.

What does the West possibly have in common with this nation, I wonder...


I disagree. There are many people in Turkey whose lifestyles and outlooks are entirely Western. Turkey has made significant moves in the direction of Westernisation, its legal system being a prime example. The long-term goal of the current AKP regime is to gradually reverse these achievements and take the country back into the Middle Ages. I hope to see a secularist government elected some time in Turkey that will put the country back on the path that it adopted when the Republic was first created.
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