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Postby Londonrake » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:53 pm

What I think is an interesting article that happened to turn up today. My apologies for its being extracted from a famously fascist, right wing "MSM" newspaper.

The price you can pay for what some of us do in places like this everyday. If you happen to live in the wrong country.

The links are worth looking at and translating, too.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... lee-russia

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Re: The unpatriotic dissident

Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:17 pm

At the invitation of the legitimate Syrian government, Russia has been sacrificing personnel and resources to liberate enslaved towns/cities/areas from WESTERN FUNDED terrorist groups, and you have the audacity to present us here with a Guardian propaganda article as an “interesting” thread!

I’m sure you also subscribe to the western notion that America was right to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII because “it saved lives” even though they nuked about 100,000 citizens per city… while the relatively minuscule number of civilian casualties from Russia’s bombings; in an attempt to rid Syria of ISIS, are worthy of a thread!

I’m starting to get comfortable to the idea that apart from suffering from severe hypocrisy you must also be plain stupid. :lol:
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Re: The unpatriotic dissident

Postby Londonrake » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:At the invitation of the legitimate Syrian government, Russia has been sacrificing personnel and resources to liberate enslaved towns/cities/areas from WESTERN FUNDED terrorist groups, and you have the audacity to present us here with a Guardian propaganda article as an “interesting” thread!

I’m sure you also subscribe to the western notion that America was right to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII because “it saved lives” even though they nuked about 100,000 citizens per city… while the relatively minuscule number of civilian casualties from Russia’s bombings; in an attempt to rid Syria of ISIS, are worthy of a thread!

I’m starting to get comfortable to the idea that apart from suffering from severe hypocrisy you must also be plain stupid. :lol:


Thanks for your considered and measured response. :lol: :lol: :lol:

You really need to calm down Mate. Your post sounds hysterical and you're all over the place.

Yes, the Guardian is famously pro propaganda. :roll: In which case, if you accept that out-of-hand, the article is of course inadmissible. I regularly listen to vitriolic, foaming mouth (like above) stuff about my country but the idea that somebody who expresses such on this or any other Forum should receive the kind of treatment this man has is abhorrent and unlikely. Especially in such an organised and widely approved manner. it would get no support from me.

Whatever your views on Russian actions in Syria (I have expressed none) perhaps you then believe that this is the way a man who gives his should be treated?

Hiroshima and Nagasaki? What's that got to do with this? You have no idea of my views and that subject is surely another thread? You're ranting.

Frankly I have no interest in what does or does not make you feel "comfortable". Your use of the term hypocrisy though is a sound-bite and your mouthing off doesn't intimidate me at all. :wink:
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Re: The unpatriotic dissident

Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:00 pm

Londonrake wrote:Your use of the term hypocrisy though is a sound-bite and your mouthing off doesn't intimidate me at all. :wink:

That’s good… so stick around while I rub your face thoroughly in mud because your criminal country (Britain) is engaged in global terrorism I’ll have you know…

http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/03/10/a ... -to-syria/

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175057

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2 ... _state.pdf

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2 ... _spons.pdf

I hope you’re ashamed of your country’s foreign policy because you should be. :|
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Re: The unpatriotic dissident

Postby Londonrake » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:16 pm

Yes, you keep posting those threads. Like Hiroshima and Nagasaki though - what have they got to do with the OP? :? :roll:

It's about a Russian dissident who posted something on his FB site which was considered "Unpatriotic" and has been systematically hounded out of the country for it.

Any views on that process? Do you think that could/should/would happen in Cyprus?

You might want to take in some of the other links as well. "Top 100 Russophobes". People being named and targeted for unpatriotic actions. The young woman who had her face and body smeared in excrement for the sin of carrying an anti-war placard. They would need an awful lot of shit to do that where I came from. An online video game where you are invited to beat up "unpatriotic people" Real people.

I mean, have you actually read it? :roll: No, I didn't think so.

You are obviously a person of open mind - without any trace of prejudice. :roll: And I am "stupid"? :lol:
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Re: The unpatriotic dissident

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:18 pm

GR:
A hypocrite he undoubtedly is ....... stupid he is not! He is just thoroughly and irreparably brainwashed.

It is absolutely pointless to try and explain anything as he ignores anything he cant answer or doesn’t like, and his conceited smug replies when challenged will soon get up your nose. He really is one of the most supercilious and patronizing hypocrites I have ever met ...... but whist he is quick to label others, he can’t see his own faults at all.

He is a troll! Why do you think he posted this ............ he is fishing for comments, so he can display his very British moral superiority. Not all Brits are like him, some of us can recognise our countries crimes of the past and our faults. Best to ignore him. :roll:

The article he posted is just an opinion by someone who is anti-Russian and full of the usual deliberate misconceptions of events. The Guardian and Telegraph are on a par with the NYT, WP and The Hill etc. ...... they are just propaganda rags, that’s why Trump has exposed his media rags for spreading fake news. :wink:
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Re: The unpatriotic dissident

Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:30 pm

And who can forget the British SAS who got caught with their pants down dressed as Arabs planting bombs in markets in Iraqi cities?

How many unsuspecting men, women and children did your British “heroes” blow to bits in a maniacal campaign of planting bombs in markets to create ethnic strife in Iraq?

Which of your criminal politicians or military personnel have been arrested and tried for these heinous acts by this “international law” you subscribe to?

Name me one…

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=1556

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basra_prison_incident

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Re: The unpatriotic dissident

Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:41 pm

RH, you need to watch and learn from the more experienced how to crush a hypocrite in like two posts instead of running around in circles till the cows come home! :wink:
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Re: The unpatriotic dissident

Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:46 pm

Londonrake wrote:It's about a Russian dissident who posted something on his FB site which was considered "Unpatriotic" and has been systematically hounded out of the country for it.

I haven't the slightest interest in your manufactured "dissidents" who rush to western news networks with their stories, and I will remind you of a famous proverb...

"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" :wink:
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Re: The unpatriotic dissident

Postby Londonrake » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:52 pm

Robin Hood wrote:GR:
A hypocrite he undoubtedly is ....... stupid he is not! He is just thoroughly and irreparably brainwashed.

It is absolutely pointless to try and explain anything as he ignores anything he cant answer or doesn’t like, and his conceited smug replies when challenged will soon get up your nose. He really is one of the most supercilious and patronizing hypocrites I have ever met ...... but whist he is quick to label others, he can’t see his own faults at all.

He is a troll! Why do you think he posted this ............ he is fishing for comments, so he can display his very British moral superiority. Not all Brits are like him, some of us can recognise our countries crimes of the past and our faults. Best to ignore him. :roll:

The article he posted is just an opinion by someone who is anti-Russian and full of the usual deliberate misconceptions of events. The Guardian and Telegraph are on a par with the NYT, WP and The Hill etc. ...... they are just propaganda rags, that’s why Trump has exposed his media rags for spreading fake news. :wink:


Hello Robin.

Tell me again about your abhorrence of "Ad Hominem" :lol: Oh, and my following you. :lol: And of course "hypocrisy" :lol: Did you get that lot - especially the end bit?

It seems that everything I post is "Trolling" :roll: That one won't work mate. :wink:

As I have said earlier. You will broach absolutely nothing which puts Russia in even the slightest of bad lights. It's all "Fake news" (that's the new term I believe?). It doesn't matter what the source, you are absolutely not interested. Which is why of course it's such a waste of time bothering with them in your case. Naturally though, you expect others to treat yours with respect.

Your sycophantic friend obviously hasn't even read the article. His reaction is knee-jerk. He's shooting about all over the place - not in the direction of Russian dissidents though.

I would ask others who may be following this post whether they believe what they read is true or whether something entirely made up? I offer no opinions here upon what's going on in Syria. I highlight how one man did in his home country of Russia and paid a heavy price for it. That's what being "unpatriotic" means in Russia today. Just as well they don't practice it hereabouts, eh Robin? :wink: Absolutely any source of information - if not "approved" by this man is - "a propaganda rag". Ohh, except when he references them of course. And I'm the hypocrite?

Don't talk about yourself as British, it's just something on your passport. You have always hated the place. Your frequent keyboard warrior attacks on the the UK over the years and support of absolutely anyone who might do it harm has always disgusted me.

And................do understand that .................I'm sure not bothered by you old friend. :wink:
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