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Postby erolz » Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:34 pm

elias wrote:actually it's more of a philosophy!

and it has been proven right as empires have forged and have fallen with time....as lands have been conquered and lost.....as people have died and people have been born!


Can you give me a single historical example of a empire that fell, only to later regain it's past glories. Over any time span? I certainly can not think of one. So where is this 'proof' about your 'philosphy'?

If anything it seems to me that history shows clearly that once and empire has fallen, it never regains it's former glory but instead is replaced by a new empire. So a philosphy that is based on the idea that former empires can be regain seems to be based in the most unrealistic of form of wishful thinking. If you yearn for the impossible you will live in disapointement.
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Postby mehmet » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:29 am

the man is clearly an idiot, don't waste time on the basis that there might be some intelligence behind his comments
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Postby brother » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:32 pm

Its morons like we know who caused the cyprus problem with their backward ideas and EOKA murdering spree which had no bounderies, today is a sad day as i have just witnessed that these idiots that humanity should no tolerate still do exist.

May they find the suffering they imposed on others come straight back to them.
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Postby elias » Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:20 pm

erolz said:

Can you give me a single historical example of a empire that fell, only to later regain it's past glories

have you ever heard of the byzantine empire or the holy roman empire(and by that i do not mean the actual roman empire but the german based empire)?well do some reasearch and you will find out.how little do you know about history

brother said:

May they find the suffering they imposed on others come straight back to them.

or maybe it came back to you.what about the greek villages and greek people killed in izmir during the 22 turkish revolution by your own nationalist ataturk(sry if spelt wrong)
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:37 pm

brother wrote:May they find the suffering they imposed on others come straight back to them.


hmm... well what goes around does come around, but i don't see how neither Turkey nor the TCs can benefit from such a thing? for one thing there would need to be a turkish genocide to compensate for the armenians, greeks, kurds etc and a massive raping spree of TCs. i know GC nationalists have burned down TC villages and what not, but I don't what their stance was on raping. One thing I know is that more GCs look like Turks then Greeks do. I wonder what that could possible mean?
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Postby metecyp » Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:59 pm

magikthrill wrote:for one thing there would need to be a turkish genocide to compensate for the armenians, greeks, kurds etc and a massive raping spree of TCs. i know GC nationalists have burned down TC villages and what not, but I don't what their stance was on raping. One thing I know is that more GCs look like Turks then Greeks do. I wonder what that could possible mean?

What are you talking about? Come on, people. Let's not litter the forum with nonsense. We should be talking about the future of Cyprus, how the Cyprus problem can be solved, how we can create a common Cypriot identity, and things like that...
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Postby elias » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:10 pm

why do you think that anything that is discussed here will ever be heard by the leaders that make decisions on cyprus or trnc?

looooooool

come on you know better than that!

the only people they listen to are bush and turkey(and sometimes the e.u.)!
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:50 pm

The eastern Mediterranean erea is a melting pot of people of different races. Insinuations of the kind used by Magikthrill lower the level of conversation to a degree where it is a waste of time to read the posts. I agree with metecyp's cry. I also agree on the need to create a cypriot identity. This call will find many enemies across both sides of the dividing line.
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Postby metecyp » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:02 pm

elias wrote:why do you think that anything that is discussed here will ever be heard by the leaders that make decisions on cyprus or trnc?

Who told you that I think that way? I'm here to learn from others and I don't give a damn if politicians will hear what we talk here or not.
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Postby efe » Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:45 am

i ask my greek cypriot friends to see a reasoning behind the existance of turkish army in cyprus today. it is not because of the greek cypriots really, it is because of the idiots like these that bother us and we feel like protecting our community in cyprus since we feel responsible for them.

dont get me wrong, i totally agree on reunification. i think though, both communities need to be more educated.

in my belief, the time is getting close though. i believe few idiots like these exists in every community. so cypriots unite! :D
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