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Postby turkcyp » Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:16 pm

Piratis wrote:Turkcyp,

As I told you before you want the whole pie and your dog fed at the same time.

You want both the occupation to continue and at the same time to share the rest of Cyprus with us.

I agree that some innocent TCs are victimized from all these, the same way that the innocent GCs are victimized. The same way that a GC has the legal right to live in his home but he is not allowed to, the same way a TC has some of his rights suspended as well.

My family is not refugees. When the refugees came, the government took a lot of land from my grandfather to built homes for refugees. And since then we have paid a lot of money to support the refugees. Could we say: "Hey, we are innocent, why should we pay all these?" No, we couldn't say this.

Unfortunately innocents or not we all had to pay a cost, and we are still paying for it. This includes the TCs.

So Turkcyp, what you are complaining for is simply your part of the cost you have to pay for the invasion like we all do. You shouldn't complain to RoC about it. You should complain to Turkey, because their invasion and their occupation are whats causing this abnormal and illegal situation in Cyprus today.

Are you ready to join as to go against Turkey so we can all take back what legally belongs to us?


According to you,

Innocent GCs paid the cost financially but innocent TCs are paying the cost by loosing their constitutional rights. Correct me if I am wrong.

And it also seems to me that we are not the one who want the whole pie but eat it too. Its you guys. You want us to turn back to RoC, but at the same time you are telling me even if you turn back to RoC you will not be given your rights.

Anyway this forum has really been an eye opener for me. Long gone the belief that " Yes. The GCs have good intentions. They just want to get their rights back." They want to get their rights back and more. As Magicthrill said in another post. "Survival of the fittest"

May be Denktas was right after all. May be all these scare tactics about the GCs, he has been using on us all these years were warranted. Actions speak louder than words.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:29 am

So what you want, is for TCs to keep "TRNC" with its 1/3rd of the island's land, and at the same time for T/Cs to share the free part of RoC at a rate of 30%.

So the TCs that are 18% will have 38% (occupied areas) + 30% of the rest 62% (=19%) so 38% + 19% = 57% for TCs.

Anyway this forum has really been an eye opener for me.


Good. If you thought that you can support the occupation of our land and then you would come here and say "I agree with the occupation. Now give me all my rights", and we would treat like a friend you are mistaken. People that support the occupation of our country are our ENEMIES and we will treat them accordingly.

I think what I say is perfectly fair, and it would not be decent from our part to react in any other way. If your only aim is how to benefit TCs by screwing GCs once more, then don't expect our support for it.
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Postby metecyp » Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:08 am

turkcyp wrote:Anyway this forum has really been an eye opener for me.

Try not to generalize from Piratis and magikthrill. I know many ordinary GCs that we can agree with.
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Postby brother » Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:52 am

Lets talk about who screwed whom, first the GC try to exterminate TC(TC SUFFER) so they can unify with Greece(EOKA TERRORIST ORGANISATION) supported by majority of GC, then turkey comes in and stops the killing and partition the island and take control(TC SUFFER AGAIN) then GC employ political attack to ensure ambargos on northern side of island(TC SUFFER) then the ROC denies tc rights in the south(TC SUFFER) and to this day still suffering.


Makes a repetitive song that goes TC SUFFER and still suffering why because the GC got greedy and tried to take all of cyprus but what did the tc do, nothing but try and live with you as brothers.

And you have the gaul to say otherwise, we all know the history and the TC population are the victims you the GC became a victim to turkey for a short period in 1974 and now you cry my lands my homes but you are like the dog who looked in the pond and saw another dog with a bone in its mouth, you know how the story goes.

All that happened was your own greedy doing and you have only yourself to blame for the current situation but the TC are your victims and turkeys.

Magikthrill or whatever your name is you are still a boy who only knows the propaganda spoon fed to you, and for someone who was not even born at the time your opinion is biased on cyprus as you only heard the GC side of it.
Living in a bubble is your life probably but you are reflecting yourself onto me, don't bother BOY when i was going round the corner you was still swimming in your fathers b***s.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:53 pm

Lets talk about who screwed whom, first the GC try to exterminate TC(TC SUFFER) so they can unify with Greece(EOKA TERRORIST ORGANISATION) supported by majority of GC, then turkey comes in and stops the killing and partition the island and take control(TC SUFFER AGAIN) then GC employ political attack to ensure ambargos on northern side of island(TC SUFFER) then the ROC denies tc rights in the south(TC SUFFER) and to this day still suffering.


Brother, what was "first" was long long time before EOKA. If you want to start with what was "first" then you should start from an era long before TCs existed on this island. Then at some point you will reach the Ottoman rule of Cyprus that lasted for about 250 years.

The TC suffering that was (partly) caused by Cs was 10 years or 20 at max. Compare that with the 250 years of Ottoman rule + 30 years of the Turkish occupation. If you want you can also compare casualties during this same period, the result is again the same.

So don't tell us about the TC suffering when the GC suffering was 100 times more. Don't expect that we should suffer even more so some TCs will get everything they wish for.

There is a way to stop the suffering for both sides and leave the past behind, and I suggested this many times. Unfortunately some people want to screw us again, and as I said we will not allow this to happen.
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Postby brother » Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:14 pm

Piratis you know me from my posts i am just being mean to that boy magikthrill or whatever his name is, he seems to annoy me, but not to worry i will be back to myself soon.
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