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Conscript who fired at Turkish soldier to be disciplined

Postby brother » Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:44 pm

Conscript who fired at Turkish soldier to be disciplined
By Staff Reporter


A NATIONAL guardsman who shot and injured a Turkish soldier with an air gun in the buffer zone in Nicosia will be disciplined, the Defence Ministry said yesterday.

The incident happened in the Kaimakli area last Friday.

The Turkish soldier was reportedly injured in the head by a pellet fired from a flobert rifle.

The soldier was hit on the forehead, just above the eyebrow. His condition is not serious.

In a news conference on Saturday, Defence Minister Koullis Mavronikolas said an initial investigation of the matter had come up empty.

Immediate checks of all guard posts in the Kaimakli area did not come up with any clues that the pellet came from the government-controlled areas, the minister said.

But further investigation into the matter discovered that it was a National Guardsman who had fired the pellet.

“After investigating the January 21 incident in the Kaimakli area, during which a Turkish soldier was lightly injured by an air gun pellet, it was determined that a National Guard conscript was responsible, acting on his own accord in a frivolous and irresponsible manner in violation of his orders,” the ministry said.

The soldier was immediately transferred to a different post and the proper disciplinary measures were taken, the ministry added.

The Defence Ministry expressed its sadness at the unfortunate event, noting that it was an isolated case.

Turkish soldiers have been manning the buffer zone for the past year after a decision to remove Turkish Cypriots who had been on duty on the Green Line for over 20 years.
Though unconfirmed, it was said that the move was related to the opening of the checkpoints and the climate of rapprochement between the two communities.
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Postby brother » Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:23 pm

So in other words the idiot does not like the idea of unification and was happy with partition, hence probably his doing this was a way to antagonise the turks to create tension between the communities.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:11 pm

I like the way you come to such a conclusion regarding this matter brother.

The guy is just a kid, probably bored, and decided to have a laugh without thinking of the consequences. Lets put this in some kind of perspective.
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Postby brother » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:01 pm

Lets put it in perspective, anyone that has done the army knows discipline is the core of the army also the fact that he is on the frontline suggests he has been through the minimum training and under no circumstance are you to fire even a pee shooter without orders.

Secound how would it sound if it was the other way round would you brush it off as a kid having fun?

Also the situation is not funny as if it had hit him in the eye it could have blinded him or gone and lodged into the brain via the eye and even killed him.

Next thing what if the turks returned fire we now would be talking about the unnecessary deaths because of one idiots actions.

Lastly like i am assuming that it was someone that wants division or dare i say war, you are assuming that it was a bored kid.

So my final thought is that there is people on both sides with very bad intentions and we should all be condeming their actions in the harshest way rather than playing it down as some dumb kid.
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:12 pm

brother wrote:Lets put it in perspective, anyone that has done the army knows discipline is the core of the army also the fact that he is on the frontline suggests he has been through the minimum training and under no circumstance are you to fire even a pee shooter without orders.

Secound how would it sound if it was the other way round would you brush it off as a kid having fun?

Also the situation is not funny as if it had hit him in the eye it could have blinded him or gone and lodged into the brain via the eye and even killed him.

Next thing what if the turks returned fire we now would be talking about the unnecessary deaths because of one idiots actions.

Lastly like i am assuming that it was someone that wants division or dare i say war, you are assuming that it was a bored kid.

So my final thought is that there is people on both sides with very bad intentions and we should all be condeming their actions in the harshest way rather than playing it down as some dumb kid.


Very true. And, mikkie, even if it was some dumb kid, should he not be disciplined just like if he was what brother described? After all, he could be both...
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Postby brother » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:16 pm

Hi jimmy welcome back where have you been we missed your imput on the forum.
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:21 pm

brother wrote:So my final thought is that there is people on both sides with very bad intentions and we should all be condeming their actions in the harshest way rather than playing it down as some dumb kid.


I agree with brother that we tend to play down such things when they are done by "our own people" - there are people around who should be serving life sentences in prison because of what they did in the 60s or 1974, but instead we have given them general amnesty concerning all crimes, for the sake of "social cohesion".

No wonder the Turkish Cypriots find us scary.
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:37 pm

brother wrote:Hi jimmy welcome back where have you been we missed your imput on the forum.


Hello right back at you :D
It's been exam week out here (exam month is more like it), so I had my hands full with that...

Alex is absolutely right and there is no excuse for such attitudes.
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Postby brother » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:35 pm

Thanks guys for your agreement but for the record i would be condeming it if it was a tc too just like you guys.

Jimmy i hope you done well in your exams.
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Postby boulio » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:54 pm

i think he should be disciplined
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