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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 19, 2007 9:44 am

mrfromng wrote:
Get Real! wrote:What's up buddy don't you like ENOSIS???


How can I GR? Isn't ENOSIS the culprit for all the problems on the island?

I’m glad you admitted that so why did you unite (enosis) with Turkey if it's so bad for the island?

Maybe I'm wrong and it has nothing to do with ENOSIS and it is purely due to the TCs presence on the island that gets up all you guys noses. Please get used to it we are here to stay.

Whatever the reason may be, one undeniable fact remains and that it is your f***up, you did it and now the onus is on you to undo it. Good luck.

What exactly is our "f*** up"? The fact that we were too few and unable to resist invasions adequately? The fact that every Tom, Dick, or Harry saw fit to come here with malice and impose their will on our people? The fact that these same fools left some of their own kind behind so they can get up our arse nonstop? What exactly is the crime of the indigenous people of this God forsaken island?
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Postby Kifeas » Sat May 19, 2007 9:51 am

Rain wrote:I lived the events of 1974, too many things can be said regarding that period of time that the Cypriots had suffered. I hope and pray that it never happens again.

If you have lived the events, as you have claimed above, then give us a brief bullet point account of what happened, in a chronological order! I seriously doubt you can do so!

Rain wrote:However I must say to all that when Mr Samson completed his cleansing with his greek opponents his EOKA B …

Nonsense number one! Which cleansing of his Greek opponents are you talking about?

Fact number one: All in all, some even less than one hundred people died during the coup, from both sided, the vast major of which were in battles between the coupists and the pro-government forces!

This is the complete list of all the casualties during the 5 days of the coup, from the 15th until the 20th of July 1974!

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa.nsf/CA04D ... copima.xls

Tab1 shows the 40 people that have died in resisting the coup. These are mainly members of the presidential guard and the pro-government forces.

Tab2 shows the 39 people, mainly members of the GC National Guard, which have taken part as the coupist forces that attacked the presidential palace and other government installations.

Tab3 shows the 16 GC people that were victims of the coup fighting, mainly civilians that were caught in between crossed fires but perhaps also people who have been victims of revenge killings from the part of the coupist or the Eoka B.

Tab3 shows the 5 mainland Greek officers that died during the coup, mainly taking part by being in charge of the Greek Cypriot National Guard forces that carried out the coup.

All in all, 100 people have died from both sides, most of which during the various fights that sparked around Cyprus, for and against the coup! Where have you seen the nonsense that you posted above, that “…when Mr. Samson completed his cleansing with his Greek opponents, his EOKA B…bla, bla?”

Fact number two: Sampson did not carry out the coup himself, neither Eoka B did! The coup was ordered by the Greek Junta, via some of the mainland Greek officers in charge of the Greek Cypriot NG, and was executed by the GC NG, mainly the 3 GC commando battalions and the GC cavalry (tank) battalion that were all based outside and around Nicosia!

Once Makarios was overthrown, the Greek Junta went around asking for a Greek Cypriot person to appoint as its puppet president, in the place of Makarios. They went around on the phone, conducting 3-4 prominent GC politicians, including former president Klerides and Attorney general M. Triantafilides, which all refused to side with the Junta. As a last resort, and when all others rejected the offer, Junta contacted Sampson who accepted to play this role!

Junta had only one objective, which was to overthrow and eliminate Makarios, for well known reasons some of which were directed by the CIA and in the knowledge and perhaps approval of Henry Kissinger himself! It did not have an objective to either eliminate “Sampson’s GC opponents” as you claimed, or to eliminate the Turkish Cypriots, and none of the two have occurred during the coup’s period! Samson was selected more or less accidentally, as a last resort, in the way I have explained to you above! Sampson did not order the coup, neither had he executed it, nor was he given any special authority or power by the Junta other than that of a puppet president, simply because he was the only GC to have accepted the role!
Rain wrote:was going to carry out the last part of the Akridas plan which was to put a complete end to the presence of any Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus so that he could be able to declare Enosis with Greece.


Blah, blah, blah!
Evidence!
Evidence that the Akritas plan had as its last part aim what you have suggested!
I gave you a link of the plan! Find me where it says or implies such nonsense! Here it is again:
http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/akritas_plan.htm

Evidence that the coup’s aim was to first “eliminate” Sampson’s GC opponents, and then to “put a complete end to the presence of any Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus!” Evidence, no dissembled cabbage talking, in order to excuse and vindicate the Turkish aggression against the GC people! Evidence!

Since when, on the basis of only hypothesis and assumptions, any one country has the right to invade another country, and do whatever Turkey did, without UN security council approval and in violation of international law and the UN Charter? Only fools like your self can make such allegations!

Rain wrote:The Turkish Army had to intervene to stop the massacre of the Turkish people.


Blah, blah, blah!
“The Turkish Army had to intervene to stop the massacre of the Turkish people…!” Which massacre to stop? The one that has never occurred? To stop something, it had to have started first! Evidence! Give us one single evidence which proves that one single Turkish Cypriot has been killed or even touched during the coup! Not one single hair out of the head of any one single TC was affected!

Rain wrote:I still think that we must not argue for the past,only look for the future that no more mothers cry and no children are left without parents.


If you still think that “we must not argue for the past, only look for the future..,” then you should also give the proper example! Not only you talk about the past, but you do it in the most distorted, misinformed and one-side way and fashion!
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat May 19, 2007 2:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:
mrfromng wrote:
Get Real! wrote:What's up buddy don't you like ENOSIS???


How can I GR? Isn't ENOSIS the culprit for all the problems on the island?

I’m glad you admitted that so why did you unite (enosis) with Turkey if it's so bad for the island?

Maybe I'm wrong and it has nothing to do with ENOSIS and it is purely due to the TCs presence on the island that gets up all you guys noses. Please get used to it we are here to stay.

Whatever the reason may be, one undeniable fact remains and that it is your f***up, you did it and now the onus is on you to undo it. Good luck.

What exactly is our "f*** up"? The fact that we were too few and unable to resist invasions adequately? The fact that every Tom, Dick, or Harry saw fit to come here with malice and impose their will on our people? The fact that these same fools left some of their own kind behind so they can get up our arse nonstop? What exactly is the crime of the indigenous people of this God forsaken island?



GR, Growuptc, nikephoros,

My point is this. Had the 1960 constitution not been torn to shreds and the TCs kicked out of office. Had it not been your undying desire to unite with Greece with no consideration for the TCs. Had it not been for your intolerance for our presence on the island none of this would have happened.

If you knew in advance that Turkey had the desire and a plan for occupying a part of the island then why give them this opportunity on a plate?

GR, you are right, we are now united with Turkey. Can you deny that this is the end result of your actions? You have been the key player in Cyprus's destiny throughout its history, it is no different now. It is entirely up to you what happens from here on. The presence of Turkish troops, the settlers, the division is all your doing hence my comment "you did it now undo it".
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Postby EPSILON » Sat May 19, 2007 2:51 pm

well well well!!!

Firstly I welcomed myselve on board.

good afternoon ladies!!!!

AA. Who Greek Cypriot deny his nationality (GREEK)- I want immediatetly name/passport number /mother's name/ occupation and address.

BB.Who, TC saying that Turkish army is welcomed in Cyprus- I need urgently by return all above info plus name of Grand Grand father.


CC. Kifea be care I am coming next to you
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Postby cypezokyli » Sat May 19, 2007 3:03 pm

EPSILON wrote:


AA. Who Greek Cypriot deny his nationality (GREEK)- I want immediatetly name/passport number /mother's name/ occupation and address.



:lol: :lol: :lol:


watch it - the divine punishment might be coming to all of you so-called cypriots.....be aware....

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Sat May 19, 2007 3:45 pm

EPSILON wrote:well well well!!!

Firstly I welcomed myselve on board.

good afternoon ladies!!!!

AA. Who Greek Cypriot deny his nationality (GREEK)- I want immediatetly name/passport number /mother's name/ occupation and address.

BB.Who, TC saying that Turkish army is welcomed in Cyprus- I need urgently by return all above info plus name of Grand Grand father.


CC. Kifea be care I am coming next to you


Can you re-post the whole thing in English please !!
Im not sure about welcoming you on board more like overboard I would say !
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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 19, 2007 4:42 pm

miltiades wrote:
EPSILON wrote:well well well!!!

Firstly I welcomed myselve on board.

good afternoon ladies!!!!

AA. Who Greek Cypriot deny his nationality (GREEK)- I want immediatetly name/passport number /mother's name/ occupation and address.

BB.Who, TC saying that Turkish army is welcomed in Cyprus- I need urgently by return all above info plus name of Grand Grand father.


CC. Kifea be care I am coming next to you


Can you re-post the whole thing in English please !!
Im not sure about welcoming you on board more like overboard I would say !

:lol:
Yup, that must be Miltiades prior to the wine! :)
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Postby T_C » Sat May 19, 2007 4:44 pm

EPSILON wrote:well well well!!!

Firstly I welcomed myselve on board.

good afternoon ladies!!!!

AA. Who Greek Cypriot deny his nationality (GREEK)- I want immediatetly name/passport number /mother's name/ occupation and address.

BB.Who, TC saying that Turkish army is welcomed in Cyprus- I need urgently by return all above info plus name of Grand Grand father.


CC. Kifea be care I am coming next to you


Coming soon to Cyprus-Forum near you.....

Starring...

TOTIS MILIOTIS


as

*****EPSILON*****

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Postby cypezokyli » Sat May 19, 2007 5:19 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

but this is not TOTIS MILIOTIS.

this case is way more serious.....
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Postby T_C » Sat May 19, 2007 5:42 pm

cypezokyli wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:

but this is not TOTIS MILIOTIS.

this case is way more serious.....


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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