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Postby YeReVaN » Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:55 pm

cannedmoose wrote:You're all acting like petulant children rather than reasonable adults. I suggest you consider what you're posting before launching into such abusive nonsense.



There you go with your "parent like" comments again. Please. You can post your discipliniory comments to that Frogman or Manfrog whatever the F his name is. Your comments about you being the inteligent person and others sounding like childrent are getting boring.
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Postby Turkey (( * » Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:59 pm

YeReVaN wrote:
cannedmoose wrote:You're all acting like petulant children rather than reasonable adults. I suggest you consider what you're posting before launching into such abusive nonsense.



There you go with your "parent like" comments again. Please. You can post your discipliniory comments to that Frogman or Manfrog whatever the F his name is. Your comments about you being the inteligent person and others sounding like childrent are getting boring.


He is right nonetheless.In addition you are answering to him(frogman, etc) in kind!!Don't complain somebody before correcting yourself...
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Postby theg » Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:02 pm

yerevan u havent answered me wont u get marry with me? :lol: :lol: :lol:


im handsome and rich i need a housewife that very clever and industrious. mean like u.
8) 8) :lol:
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Postby theg » Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:07 pm

what i made ? ooohh man i made joke 8) :lol:
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Postby YeReVaN » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:52 pm

theg wrote:yerevan u havent answered me wont u get marry with me? :lol: :lol: :lol:


im handsome and rich i need a housewife that very clever and industrious. mean like u.
8) 8) :lol:



I'm not gay, buddy. If you need a housewife, you should ask your daddy. I'm sure your mom won't wind if you two share him.
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Postby YeReVaN » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:53 pm

He is right nonetheless.In addition you are answering to him(frogman, etc) in kind!!Don't complain somebody before correcting yourself




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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:53 am

YeReVaN wrote:
cannedmoose wrote:You're all acting like petulant children rather than reasonable adults. I suggest you consider what you're posting before launching into such abusive nonsense.



There you go with your "parent like" comments again. Please. You can post your discipliniory comments to that Frogman or Manfrog whatever the F his name is. Your comments about you being the inteligent person and others sounding like childrent are getting boring.


To be honest, I'm surprised that the moderator of this forum has not taken action against you both for some of the rubbish that you post. You're obviously not a stupid person, therefore why demean yourself by ranting all the time... I don't get it.

Nowhere did I claim to be more intelligent than any of you, reasonable yes, intelligent possibly... if you started displaying a greater deal of respect for each other's different opinions that would be a display of your intellgence. Your constant rants do exactly the opposite. My last word on the matter, but I hope that the 'moderator' of this forum does something about all the crap that gets posted in this thread.
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Postby brother » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:08 pm

Restoration of historic Armenian church raises hopes for Turkish-Armenian reconciliation

Thursday, August 11, 2005


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AKDAMAR ISLAND - AP

  Rainwater seeps through the conical dome of Akhtamar's thousand-year-old church, washing away biblical frescoes from one of the finest surviving monuments of ancient Armenian culture. Bullet holes pock the sandstone walls.

  After a century of neglect and decades of political wrangling, Turkey has begun restoring the church, a renovation that comes as Turkish leaders face intense pressure from the European Union to improve their treatment of minorities.

  The YTL 2 million ($1.5 million) restoration, ordered and paid for by the Turkish government, began in May and is raising hopes that a small, cautious thaw in relations between Turkey and neighboring Armenia could expand.

  The church is the lone building on a tiny island in a lake. It is covered in scaffolding as masons replace fallen roof stones to stop the rainwater and rebuild the basalt floor, which was dug out by treasure hunters. Experts will also try to restore the frescoes in the interior.

  ?This is our positive approach, our message,? says Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdog<breve>an, who has staked his rule on winning membership in the EU.

  The EU urged Turkey last year to consider registering Akhtamar in UNESCO's World Heritage List and is pressing the country to reopen its closed border with Armenia and re-establish diplomatic ties with its neighbor.

  Turkey has taken cautious steps toward improving connections Armenia and a member of Erdog<breve>an's political party visited its capital earlier this year, but relations remain extremely cool because of animosities over ethnic bloodletting a century ago.

  Eastern Turkey was once a heartland of Armenian culture and more than a million Armenians lived in the area at the turn of the 19th century. But they were driven out by what Armenia contends was a policy of genocide by Turks, a charge the Turkish government vehemently denies.

  Akhtamar, called the Church of Surp Khach, or Holy Cross, was one of the most important churches of those ancient Armenian lands.

  It was built by Armenian King Gagik I of Vaspurakan and inaugurated in A.D. 921. Gagik's historian, Thomas Ardzruni, described the church as being near a harbor and a palace with gilded cupolas, peacefully surrounded by the lake. Only the church survived.

  By 1113, the church had become the center of the Armenian Patriarchate of Akhtamar and an inspiration to mystics in the area. The island was the center of a renowned school of scribal art and illumination.

  The region was a thriving center of Armenian culture, but was engulfed in ethnic conflict as the Turks' Ottoman Empire splintered at the end of World War I.

  Armenians say 1.5 million of their people were slaughtered by Turks. Turkey strongly denies there was any genocide, arguing that the death toll has been inflated and saying that the Armenians who were killed died as a result of civil unrest.

  Today, there are virtually no Armenians in eastern Turkey, and Akhtamar has been empty for decades. Some of its reliefs are stained with paint and eggs thrown by vandals. Bullet holes, apparently from shepherds who used the site for target practice, mar the walls.

  The church is considered one of the most important examples of Armenian architecture.

  Elaborate reliefs project up to 10 centimeters from brownish-red sandstone walls, almost like sculptures. Some depict biblical stories such as Jonah being swallowed by the whale and Daniel in the lion's den. Others show cows, lions, birds and other animals to remind worshippers that the church is an image of paradise.

  Erdog<breve>an's government asked the Armenian Christian patriarch in Istanbul, where nearly all of Turkey's remaining 65,000 Armenians live, to name an architect to help with the restoration.

  Zakarya Mildanog<breve>lu, the architect picked, says he hopes the restoration helps improve relations between Armenia and Turkey, but adds: ?We need to be patient. Things that happened a century ago cannot be healed overnight.?

  Mesrob II, the Armenian patriarch, wants the government to open the church for religious services and special festivities once a year. The church is officially closed to services since there are no Armenian Christians in the region.

  ?I think that Akhtamar is a symbol for perfection in Armenian architecture and also mysticism,? Mesrob II says.
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Postby frogman » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:43 pm

YeReVaN wrote:
cannedmoose wrote:You're all acting like petulant children rather than reasonable adults. I suggest you consider what you're posting before launching into such abusive nonsense.



There you go with your "parent like" comments again. Please. You can post your discipliniory comments to that Frogman or Manfrog whatever the F his name is. Your comments about you being the inteligent person and others sounding like childrent are getting boring.



shut up yerevan! fact is, all your neighbours hates you and your fucking country!!! Turkey, Azerbajdshan, Iran and Georgia!
even the georgian christians don´t like the armenians!!! because you and your fxxxing nation are in love with russia!!!
so drink your wotka and shut up!!!

you are a drank russian slave! :x

and think about it: why people in other countrys don´t like armenia???
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Postby theg » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:44 pm

frogman wrote:
YeReVaN wrote:
cannedmoose wrote:You're all acting like petulant children rather than reasonable adults. I suggest you consider what you're posting before launching into such abusive nonsense.



There you go with your "parent like" comments again. Please. You can post your discipliniory comments to that Frogman or Manfrog whatever the F his name is. Your comments about you being the inteligent person and others sounding like childrent are getting boring.



shut up yerevan! fact is, all your neighbours hates you and your fucking country!!! Turkey, Azerbajdshan, Iran and Georgia!
even the georgian christians don´t like the armenians!!! because you and your fxxxing nation are in love with russia!!!
so drink your wotka and shut up!!!

you are a drank russian slave! :x

and think about it: why people in other countrys don´t like armenia???


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