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[zan]

guys ,,,both the US ,UK AND GREECE AND TURKEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AS WERE RIGHT WING MEMBERS OF CYPRUS PUBLIC FOR 74 ...US AND UK WANTED CYPRUS AS STRATIGIC POINT ...why ..cyprus is the stepping stone to med.africa and europe ...all of them were responsible ...divide and conquer anybody ...IF you divide up communities they will turn on themselves ......cyprus is big money and excellent for the US to get close to the mid east ....incase arabic or turkish allies fall ...
there were no good guys nor bad guys at that time ...everybody sold us out the same way we sold out cyprus today to anyway for £100k FOR OUR LANDS ..both communities were wrong and both commited propaganda ..green light to invade was granted by u.s and uk ...
WAKE UP ...IT DONT MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG ....ITS TOO LATE ,LANDS DIVIDED AND THE ISLAND IS BECOMING A HOME TO SLAVERY ..A SHADOW OF IT SELF ....

What does it matter who gave the go ahead. The treaty allowed for Turkey to intervene and she did. The talks went on to re-establish the government and the constitution but it took years and just as Makarios and Denktas were about to sign an agreement Makarios died of a so called heart attack. The following leader should have honoured that agreement and signed it but they did not ...why. Does that not ring alarm bells in your head and tell you why Turkey is still there.

Your arguments are uninformed and unjust.

intervention doesnt mean occupation

Turkey has been charged with handing back to the government of Cyprus as a whole. That condition does not exist. Simple as that.

[Kifeas]

guys ,,,both the US ,UK AND GREECE AND TURKEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AS WERE RIGHT WING MEMBERS OF CYPRUS PUBLIC FOR 74 ...US AND UK WANTED CYPRUS AS STRATIGIC POINT ...why ..cyprus is the stepping stone to med.africa and europe ...all of them were responsible ...divide and conquer anybody ...IF you divide up communities they will turn on themselves ......cyprus is big money and excellent for the US to get close to the mid east ....incase arabic or turkish allies fall ...
there were no good guys nor bad guys at that time ...everybody sold us out the same way we sold out cyprus today to anyway for £100k FOR OUR LANDS ..both communities were wrong and both commited propaganda ..green light to invade was granted by u.s and uk ...
WAKE UP ...IT DONT MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG ....ITS TOO LATE ,LANDS DIVIDED AND THE ISLAND IS BECOMING A HOME TO SLAVERY ..A SHADOW OF IT SELF ....

What does it matter who gave the go ahead. The treaty allowed for Turkey to intervene and she did. The talks went on to re-establish the government and the constitution but it took years and just as Makarios and Denktas were about to sign an agreement Makarios died of a so called heart attack. The following leader should have honoured that agreement and signed it but they did not ...why. Does that not ring alarm bells in your head and tell you why Turkey is still there.

Your arguments are uninformed and unjust.

Which treaty poor dumb? The UN Charter which says that no unilateral invasion or intervention by any UN member country is allowed against another UN member state, and only the UN Security Council has such authority to order such intervention?

[oranos64]

LET ME STOKE UP THE FIRES ....CYPRUS BELONGS TO THE GREEKS ,CYPRUS WAS INVADED AND DIVIDED DOWN THE MIDDLE AND THE ENDS BY EVERY BASTURD INVADING CYPRUS ...TURKS FORCED THE GREEKS AWAY FROM THE COASTAL AREAS SOME 200 YEARS AGO ...IN THAT TIME ..GREEKS WERE FORCED FROM THEIR LANDS ..MOSQUES WERE BUILT OVER CHURCHS (AS DONE TODAY )YES CYPRIOTS WERE OF BOTH RACES ..BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT TURKS ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE US DID TO THE INDIANS .
YEAP WE KNOW THAT THE US HAD A HAND IN THE INVASION AND YES SO HAD TURKEY A RIGHT TO INTERVENE ,ALL OF THE ABOVE HAD THEIR HAND ON THE PIE ..WHAT I AM SAYING TO ALL OF YOU IS SO WHAT ..? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ..DO ALL THE GREEKS THINK THE TURKS WILL LEAVE ...DO THE TURKS HERE BELIEVE THAT THE GREEKS WILL ABANDON THE RIGHTS TO INTERGRATE ...ME THINKS NOT

LIKE I SAID DIVIDE AND CONQUER

THE PROBLEM LIES IN THAT FACT THAT CYPRUS WILL NEVER BE UNITED BECAUSE THE TWO ETHNIC GROUPS CANNOT NOT CO EXIST ..YOU CAN ALL ARGUE TILL YOU FINGERS HURT FROM ALL THE TYPING

BY THE WAY I OWN LAND IN FAMAGUSTA AND BUILDINGS WORTH £500K OR MORE ,..DO I WANT IT BACK YEAH BUT NOT AT THE COST OF WATCHING MY FELLOW BROTHERS DIE IN SECTUARIAN VIOLENCE IF WE AGREE TO U.N COCK UP PLANS .... I DONT WANT U.N PATROLING MY STREETS BECAUSE SOME GUYS ARE FIGHTING

DONT FOR ONE MINUTE THINK BECAUSE THE GREY WOLVES ARE QUIET ...THEY ARE GONE ..NO SIR EE ...THEY ARE WAITING AND WATCHING ....JUST BECUSE THE GUY BUILDING YOUR NEIGHBOURS HOUSE IS GETTING PAID DONT MEAN HE AINT LOOKING AT YOUR ASS WHEN YOU AINT LOOKING AND THINKING HOW BRAVE HE WOULD BE TO SMASH YOUR HEAD UP ..THERE WAS PEACE IN YUGOSLAVIA ..FOR A WHILE

CYPRUS IS AND WILL BECOME ANOTHER YUGOSLAVIA ... THINK ..DONT CUSS MY COMMENTS ..SEE BOTH SIDES OF MY ARGUMENT ..I HAVE BEEN TO SERBIA RECENTLY AND CROATIA ..MOST OF YOU ARMCHAIR EXPERTS WOULDNT LAST A WEEK WITHOUT YOUR PC ,YOUR MERCS VIA CREDIT ETC

HATE ME IF YOU WANT ,BUT YOU ALL KNOW I AM RIGHT

BETTER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW ...

[souroul]

ok lets try this again..

occupation:
The act of taking possession of an area by military force.
www.nps.gov/mana/education/vocab.htm

Control of a country by a foreign military power. The Netherlands was occupied by the Nazi government of Germany.
teacher.scholastic.com/frank/gloss.htm

the control of a country by military forces of a foreign power

sorry cant find it in turkish. try looking up a dictionary?

[DT.]

LET ME STOKE UP THE FIRES ....CYPRUS BELONGS TO THE GREEKS ,CYPRUS WAS INVADED AND DIVIDED DOWN THE MIDDLE AND THE ENDS BY EVERY BASTURD INVADING CYPRUS ...TURKS FORCED THE GREEKS AWAY FROM THE COASTAL AREAS SOME 200 YEARS AGO ...IN THAT TIME ..GREEKS WERE FORCED FROM THEIR LANDS ..MOSQUES WERE BUILT OVER CHURCHS (AS DONE TODAY )YES CYPRIOTS WERE OF BOTH RACES ..BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT TURKS ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE US DID TO THE INDIANS .
YEAP WE KNOW THAT THE US HAD A HAND IN THE INVASION AND YES SO HAD TURKEY A RIGHT TO INTERVENE ,ALL OF THE ABOVE HAD THEIR HAND ON THE PIE ..WHAT I AM SAYING TO ALL OF YOU IS SO WHAT ..? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ..DO ALL THE GREEKS THINK THE TURKS WILL LEAVE ...DO THE TURKS HERE BELIEVE THAT THE GREEKS WILL ABANDON THE RIGHTS TO INTERGRATE ...ME THINKS NOT

LIKE I SAID DIVIDE AND CONQUER

THE PROBLEM LIES IN THAT FACT THAT CYPRUS WILL NEVER BE UNITED BECAUSE THE TWO ETHNIC GROUPS CANNOT NOT CO EXIST ..YOU CAN ALL ARGUE TILL YOU FINGERS HURT FROM ALL THE TYPING

BY THE WAY I OWN LAND IN FAMAGUSTA AND BUILDINGS WORTH £500K OR MORE ,..DO I WANT IT BACK YEAH BUT NOT AT THE COST OF WATCHING MY FELLOW BROTHERS DIE IN SECTUARIAN VIOLENCE IF WE AGREE TO U.N COCK UP PLANS .... I DONT WANT U.N PATROLING MY STREETS BECAUSE SOME GUYS ARE FIGHTING

DONT FOR ONE MINUTE THINK BECAUSE THE GREY WOLVES ARE QUIET ...THEY ARE GONE ..NO SIR EE ...THEY ARE WAITING AND WATCHING ....JUST BECUSE THE GUY BUILDING YOUR NEIGHBOURS HOUSE IS GETTING PAID DONT MEAN HE AINT LOOKING AT YOUR ASS WHEN YOU AINT LOOKING AND THINKING HOW BRAVE HE WOULD BE TO SMASH YOUR HEAD UP ..THERE WAS PEACE IN YUGOSLAVIA ..FOR A WHILE

CYPRUS IS AND WILL BECOME ANOTHER YUGOSLAVIA ... THINK ..DONT CUSS MY COMMENTS ..SEE BOTH SIDES OF MY ARGUMENT ..I HAVE BEEN TO SERBIA RECENTLY AND CROATIA ..MOST OF YOU ARMCHAIR EXPERTS WOULDNT LAST A WEEK WITHOUT YOUR PC ,YOUR MERCS VIA CREDIT ETC

HATE ME IF YOU WANT ,BUT YOU ALL KNOW I AM RIGHT

BETTER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW ...

couldn't have put VP's argument better.

[zan]

guys ,,,both the US ,UK AND GREECE AND TURKEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AS WERE RIGHT WING MEMBERS OF CYPRUS PUBLIC FOR 74 ...US AND UK WANTED CYPRUS AS STRATIGIC POINT ...why ..cyprus is the stepping stone to med.africa and europe ...all of them were responsible ...divide and conquer anybody ...IF you divide up communities they will turn on themselves ......cyprus is big money and excellent for the US to get close to the mid east ....incase arabic or turkish allies fall ...
there were no good guys nor bad guys at that time ...everybody sold us out the same way we sold out cyprus today to anyway for £100k FOR OUR LANDS ..both communities were wrong and both commited propaganda ..green light to invade was granted by u.s and uk ...
WAKE UP ...IT DONT MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG ....ITS TOO LATE ,LANDS DIVIDED AND THE ISLAND IS BECOMING A HOME TO SLAVERY ..A SHADOW OF IT SELF ....

What does it matter who gave the go ahead. The treaty allowed for Turkey to intervene and she did. The talks went on to re-establish the government and the constitution but it took years and just as Makarios and Denktas were about to sign an agreement Makarios died of a so called heart attack. The following leader should have honoured that agreement and signed it but they did not ...why. Does that not ring alarm bells in your head and tell you why Turkey is still there.

Your arguments are uninformed and unjust.

Which treaty poor dumb? The UN Charter which says that no unilateral invasion or intervention by any UN member country is allowed against another UN member state, and only the UN Security Council has such authority to order such intervention?

Is that the same UN that stood and watched while my people were being killed. Give me a brake.
The Zurich agreement is what I am talking about and well you know it. Makarios and Greece tried to use that charter to their advantage in their aim of mass murder...They were stopped so what is your problem. On tthe side of the murderers?

[DT.]

guys ,,,both the US ,UK AND GREECE AND TURKEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AS WERE RIGHT WING MEMBERS OF CYPRUS PUBLIC FOR 74 ...US AND UK WANTED CYPRUS AS STRATIGIC POINT ...why ..cyprus is the stepping stone to med.africa and europe ...all of them were responsible ...divide and conquer anybody ...IF you divide up communities they will turn on themselves ......cyprus is big money and excellent for the US to get close to the mid east ....incase arabic or turkish allies fall ...
there were no good guys nor bad guys at that time ...everybody sold us out the same way we sold out cyprus today to anyway for £100k FOR OUR LANDS ..both communities were wrong and both commited propaganda ..green light to invade was granted by u.s and uk ...
WAKE UP ...IT DONT MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG ....ITS TOO LATE ,LANDS DIVIDED AND THE ISLAND IS BECOMING A HOME TO SLAVERY ..A SHADOW OF IT SELF ....

What does it matter who gave the go ahead. The treaty allowed for Turkey to intervene and she did. The talks went on to re-establish the government and the constitution but it took years and just as Makarios and Denktas were about to sign an agreement Makarios died of a so called heart attack. The following leader should have honoured that agreement and signed it but they did not ...why. Does that not ring alarm bells in your head and tell you why Turkey is still there.

Your arguments are uninformed and unjust.

Which treaty poor dumb? The UN Charter which says that no unilateral invasion or intervention by any UN member country is allowed against another UN member state, and only the UN Security Council has such authority to order such intervention?

Is that the same UN that stood and watched while my people were being killed. Give me a brake.
The Zurich agreement is what I am talking about and well you know it. Makarios and Greece tried to use that charter to their advantage in their aim of mass murder...They were stopped so what is your problem. On tthe side of the murderers?

Zan, has Turkey done ANYTHING wrong in your mind?

[zan]

guys ,,,both the US ,UK AND GREECE AND TURKEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AS WERE RIGHT WING MEMBERS OF CYPRUS PUBLIC FOR 74 ...US AND UK WANTED CYPRUS AS STRATIGIC POINT ...why ..cyprus is the stepping stone to med.africa and europe ...all of them were responsible ...divide and conquer anybody ...IF you divide up communities they will turn on themselves ......cyprus is big money and excellent for the US to get close to the mid east ....incase arabic or turkish allies fall ...
there were no good guys nor bad guys at that time ...everybody sold us out the same way we sold out cyprus today to anyway for £100k FOR OUR LANDS ..both communities were wrong and both commited propaganda ..green light to invade was granted by u.s and uk ...
WAKE UP ...IT DONT MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG ....ITS TOO LATE ,LANDS DIVIDED AND THE ISLAND IS BECOMING A HOME TO SLAVERY ..A SHADOW OF IT SELF ....

What does it matter who gave the go ahead. The treaty allowed for Turkey to intervene and she did. The talks went on to re-establish the government and the constitution but it took years and just as Makarios and Denktas were about to sign an agreement Makarios died of a so called heart attack. The following leader should have honoured that agreement and signed it but they did not ...why. Does that not ring alarm bells in your head and tell you why Turkey is still there.

Your arguments are uninformed and unjust.

Which treaty poor dumb? The UN Charter which says that no unilateral invasion or intervention by any UN member country is allowed against another UN member state, and only the UN Security Council has such authority to order such intervention?

Is that the same UN that stood and watched while my people were being killed. Give me a brake.
The Zurich agreement is what I am talking about and well you know it. Makarios and Greece tried to use that charter to their advantage in their aim of mass murder...They were stopped so what is your problem. On tthe side of the murderers?

Zan, has Turkey done ANYTHING wrong in your mind?

Too many to list mate.........But you have to give credit where it is due.

[DT.]

guys ,,,both the US ,UK AND GREECE AND TURKEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AS WERE RIGHT WING MEMBERS OF CYPRUS PUBLIC FOR 74 ...US AND UK WANTED CYPRUS AS STRATIGIC POINT ...why ..cyprus is the stepping stone to med.africa and europe ...all of them were responsible ...divide and conquer anybody ...IF you divide up communities they will turn on themselves ......cyprus is big money and excellent for the US to get close to the mid east ....incase arabic or turkish allies fall ...
there were no good guys nor bad guys at that time ...everybody sold us out the same way we sold out cyprus today to anyway for £100k FOR OUR LANDS ..both communities were wrong and both commited propaganda ..green light to invade was granted by u.s and uk ...
WAKE UP ...IT DONT MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG ....ITS TOO LATE ,LANDS DIVIDED AND THE ISLAND IS BECOMING A HOME TO SLAVERY ..A SHADOW OF IT SELF ....

What does it matter who gave the go ahead. The treaty allowed for Turkey to intervene and she did. The talks went on to re-establish the government and the constitution but it took years and just as Makarios and Denktas were about to sign an agreement Makarios died of a so called heart attack. The following leader should have honoured that agreement and signed it but they did not ...why. Does that not ring alarm bells in your head and tell you why Turkey is still there.

Your arguments are uninformed and unjust.

Which treaty poor dumb? The UN Charter which says that no unilateral invasion or intervention by any UN member country is allowed against another UN member state, and only the UN Security Council has such authority to order such intervention?

Is that the same UN that stood and watched while my people were being killed. Give me a brake.
The Zurich agreement is what I am talking about and well you know it. Makarios and Greece tried to use that charter to their advantage in their aim of mass murder...They were stopped so what is your problem. On tthe side of the murderers?

Zan, has Turkey done ANYTHING wrong in your mind?

Too many to list mate.........But you have to give credit where it is due.

Its funny how I can go through a discussion with a TC and during that discusison i can go through an entire host of mistakes that Greece committed. On the other hand 9/10 i will receive a very shaky argument of how everythingn turkey ever did was within the international law and its rights with peace interventions and RSVP invitiations to vacate homes.

I then hear from other members that its the GC's that are brainwashed as kids...

[zan]

guys ,,,both the US ,UK AND GREECE AND TURKEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AS WERE RIGHT WING MEMBERS OF CYPRUS PUBLIC FOR 74 ...US AND UK WANTED CYPRUS AS STRATIGIC POINT ...why ..cyprus is the stepping stone to med.africa and europe ...all of them were responsible ...divide and conquer anybody ...IF you divide up communities they will turn on themselves ......cyprus is big money and excellent for the US to get close to the mid east ....incase arabic or turkish allies fall ...
there were no good guys nor bad guys at that time ...everybody sold us out the same way we sold out cyprus today to anyway for £100k FOR OUR LANDS ..both communities were wrong and both commited propaganda ..green light to invade was granted by u.s and uk ...
WAKE UP ...IT DONT MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG ....ITS TOO LATE ,LANDS DIVIDED AND THE ISLAND IS BECOMING A HOME TO SLAVERY ..A SHADOW OF IT SELF ....

What does it matter who gave the go ahead. The treaty allowed for Turkey to intervene and she did. The talks went on to re-establish the government and the constitution but it took years and just as Makarios and Denktas were about to sign an agreement Makarios died of a so called heart attack. The following leader should have honoured that agreement and signed it but they did not ...why. Does that not ring alarm bells in your head and tell you why Turkey is still there.

Your arguments are uninformed and unjust.

Which treaty poor dumb? The UN Charter which says that no unilateral invasion or intervention by any UN member country is allowed against another UN member state, and only the UN Security Council has such authority to order such intervention?

Is that the same UN that stood and watched while my people were being killed. Give me a brake.
The Zurich agreement is what I am talking about and well you know it. Makarios and Greece tried to use that charter to their advantage in their aim of mass murder...They were stopped so what is your problem. On tthe side of the murderers?

Zan, has Turkey done ANYTHING wrong in your mind?

Too many to list mate.........But you have to give credit where it is due.

Its funny how I can go through a discussion with a TC and during that discusison i can go through an entire host of mistakes that Greece committed. On the other hand 9/10 i will receive a very shaky argument of how everythingn turkey ever did was within the international law and its rights with peace interventions and RSVP invitiations to vacate homes.

I then hear from other members that its the GC's that are brainwashed as kids...

You have been brain washed mate....You seem to think that Greece has no interests or is not influential in the "RoC".