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[-mikkie2-]

In the whole discussion i see that many wants to return back instead of getting compensation.But this can't be! Some will return and some have to get compensation to protect our rights.

And that is the point. You put YOUR rights above all else. YOUR rights have priority over OURS. You want to compromise OURS in order to get what you want.

Just admit that is what you want. No TC is openly saying 'yes, we think your rights need to be compromised'. To me that is the bottom line but non of you want to admit this.

Alexandre,

You say that we would need to start from scratch. I do not think so! We already have the constitution of the RoC which is in place and that would need minor amendments to make things work better for both communities. Hell, even the Annan plan is 90% RoC constitution! The notion that we would have to start from scratch is more to do to change mindset than it is to work out a functional solution.

[Alexandros Lordos]

Peace, the economics of the right to return is one of the most complex aspects of the Plan ... as I said in a previous post, one needs to balance the TCs need to not get bought out by GCs, with the TCs need to attract investments in the north that will help raise their standard of living.

From the refugee side of the issue, one must balance the right of return of GCs with respect for the structure and integrity of the current TC communities ...

Having said that, we should remember what the "big compromises" are: GCs accept to give you full political equality well beyond what your numbers would justify, you accept to let GCs get back as much of their property as possible. And this way, both sides' key concern is satisfied. This is really the heart of "the bargain" and if we miss this point - either from a GC point of view by insisting on majority rule or from a TC point of view by making light of GC property demands - then "the deal" will just not happen.

Don't forget it is not the same for TC refugees - because it is not perceived the same way. For TCs a solution is to have some autonomy from GCs, it's not about property. Whereas for GCs, right of return is paramount.

[Agios Amvrosios]

Another problem is that any model other than a single unitary state will require an absolute behemoth of a beaurocracy to make all the cogs go around... and we are talking about a country with less than 1 million people. That is Nuts Habibi!

Don't you think Cyprus (Free Areas) already have way too many public servants? I mean every one I met back there was a public servant of some sort. Where is the tax/revenue needed to run this behemoth public service going to come from?...two dozen companies ? This is fairyland stuff

[PEACE]

And that is the point. You put YOUR rights above all else. YOUR rights have priority over OURS. You want to compromise OURS in order to get what you want.

Not.All i want is to be protected from GC dominance.Anything that will serve this is the points i can't accept.

OK,if returning back is the prior for you and so important that situation there should be restrictions at your political rights in Turkish Constituent State.Unlimited returning right but restricted political rights in TCS.

one needs to balance the TCs need to not get bought out by GCs, with the TCs need to attract investments in the north that will help raise their standard of living.

I think so.

GCs accept to give you full political equality well beyond what your numbers would justify, you accept to let GCs get back as much of their property as possible.

If our political equality is quaranteed than no problem.

For TCs a solution is to have some autonomy from GCs, it's not about property. Whereas for GCs, right of return is paramount.

Ok.But this result about TCs come from your survey?