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The issue of being a Cypriot

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby phoenix » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:25 pm

Piratis wrote:Being Greek/Turkish AND Cypriot is not something mutually exclusive.

Cyprus is not the only multi-ethnic country in the world. Take the USA for example. They have African Americans, Greek Americans, Italian Americans etc. There is absolutely no problem with that as long as the differences between the different ethnic groups are not used as an excuse for conflicts and discriminations.

If there are such conflicts then indeed a way to end them is to just force everybody to be the same. However forcing people to give up part of what they are is not easy and can backfire, creating even more conflicts.

A better alternative in ending such conflicts is to ensure the equality of all people regardless of their ethnic background, based on mutual respect. Also, instead of emphasizing and exploiting the few differences, what should be emphasized are the much more common things that Cypriots as a whole have regardless of their ethnic background.

Just like in the USA, what we should have in Cyprus should be equal Cypriot citizens. Beyond that, everybody is free to call himself just Cypriot, Greek Cypriot, Turkish Cypriot, Armenian Cypriot, Latin Cypriot, Maronite Cypriot, Russian Cypriot, Martian or whatever he feels like.


And then the Native Cypriots could live in little camps and make native jewellery for the tourists to remind everyone of their forgotten 10,000 year history on the island.....which is what happened to the Native American Indians under this free-for-all banner.

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Postby Piratis » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:46 pm

We are the native Cypriots, and non of us will live in camps. It is not "free-for-all", but "free-for-Cypriots" what we should have.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:51 pm

Kifeas wrote:According to some so-called Turks and some so-called Greeks in this forum, this certain Huseyin Kavaz is nothing more than a so-called Cypriot, and this so-called Irish that looked at his so-called RoC so-called passport has made a so-called mistake, because so-called Cyprus is only a so-called country and just a so-called member of the so-called United so-called Nations (UN!)


I hate it when you write your posts in such "just a so-called-way". :lol: :lol:
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Postby phoenix » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:55 pm

Piratis wrote:We are the native Cypriots, and non of us will live in camps. It is not "free-for-all", but "free-for-Cypriots" what we should have.


But how can you safeguard against extinction of the Native Cypriots by all (relatively) new-comers?

"Native" by its very nature, cannot hold everyone under its umbrella, no matter how politically correct you try to be.

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Postby Piratis » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:04 pm

phoenix wrote:
Piratis wrote:We are the native Cypriots, and non of us will live in camps. It is not "free-for-all", but "free-for-Cypriots" what we should have.


But how can you safeguard against extinction of the Native Cypriots by all (relatively) new-comers?

"Native" by its very nature, cannot hold everyone under its umbrella, no matter how politically correct you try to be.


Don't worry, we will not be extinct with democracy and human rights.

In any case we live the era of globalisation and we have to adapt. Today there are no countries that are exclusively inhabited only by their original native population.
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Postby phoenix » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:15 pm

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Piratis wrote:We are the native Cypriots, and non of us will live in camps. It is not "free-for-all", but "free-for-Cypriots" what we should have.


But how can you safeguard against extinction of the Native Cypriots by all (relatively) new-comers?

"Native" by its very nature, cannot hold everyone under its umbrella, no matter how politically correct you try to be.


Don't worry, we will not be extinct with democracy and human rights.

In any case we live the era of globalisation and we have to adapt. Today there are no countries that are exclusively inhabited only by their original native population.


You assume, that all Powers will play by the rules and not abuse Democracy and Human Rights.

How did we land up in this mess then? Native Cypriots are virtually extinct from half their island already.

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Postby Piratis » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:21 pm

I don't assume anything. I am just saying what the aim should be, not that it is something easy to achieve.

We should be correct ourselves and demand and fight for what is right. It is not easy but there is no other option.
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Postby phoenix » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:28 pm

Piratis wrote:I don't assume anything. I am just saying what the aim should be, not that it is something easy to achieve.

We should be correct ourselves and demand and fight for what is right. It is not easy but there is no other option.


Well said Piratis.

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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:29 pm

phoenix wrote:
Piratis wrote:We are the native Cypriots, and non of us will live in camps. It is not "free-for-all", but "free-for-Cypriots" what we should have.


But how can you safeguard against extinction of the Native Cypriots by all (relatively) new-comers?

"Native" by its very nature, cannot hold everyone under its umbrella, no matter how politically correct you try to be.

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How things are changing It was Greeks and Turks in Cyprus, then Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots. The n turkish speaking and Greek speaking, then Cypriots and now its 'Native'. I sense a feeling of''changing the goalposts' so as to exclude the Turkish Speaking Cypriots from having anything to do with Cyprus. How sick is this.

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Postby T_C » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:49 pm

Oh who cares? :roll:

The real indigenous GCs are a minority in the South too. Theres only around 250.000 of them, the rest are a much newer addition...even more so than the TCs!

From 1911-52 they DOUBLED in population and I KNOW they didn't just drop from the sky! :wink:
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