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[Nikephoros]

Tim Drayton:

1 Electing means nothing. The Turkish nation is fascist as a group because most individuals have a fascist attitude.

2 The abolishing of the Caliphate was abolished and replaced with Diyanet. Diyanet espouses a fake version of Islam. Without tight state control over this fake version of Islam muslim clerics would establish a more correct and fanatic version of Islam. As a result there would be bombings, jihadi attacks like in Iraq where control over Islam by the Iraqi state collapsed.

3 The education system of modern Turkey is mostly a madrassa for Turkish nationalism.

5 Iniatilly Turkey was too weak to make much irredentist claims until it joined NATO and received the hugest NATO mission to train technical personnel; Western aid in all fields poured in including education, economy.

[shahmaran]

Just out of curiosity, have you ever lived in Turkey?

[Nikephoros]

Just of you curiousity are you an incompetent?

Do you think I do not about Hikmet Bill(also editor of Hurriyet) and Cyprus is Turkish? How he was recruited to help fanatize the population by making articles before the 1955 Istanbul Pogrom that Greeks in Cyprus were planning on genociding Turks in Cyprus? Do you think I do not know how Menderes regime organized student groups, worker's unions to help committ a pogrom against Greeks?(Outside of muslim Sunni fanatic Turkey usually worker's unions and student groups form the anti-war movement, instead of participating in well organized pogroms against internal minorities.) Do you think I do not know that to this day no real compensation has been received?

Do you think I do not know about the vigilante Turkish nationalism? Do you think I do not how there used to be laws on the books encouraging Turks to admonish "Speak Turkish citizien" to non-Turkish speaking minorities, and enforce these threats on their own outside of courts? Do you think I do not know about all these writers and journalists in Turkey terrorized by this vigilante fascist nationalism with death threats, bombings, attacks?(Not talking about articles 301 here) Do you think we do not about Imbros, Tenedos that you made into open prisons just to get rid of the Greek original inhabitants?

Do you think we do not know that Turks only use human rights when they are outside Turkey or talking to Westerners, but internally most Turks as muslims and good Kemalists can never respect human rights? Do you expect me to consider Turks as my brothers, feel sympathy for fascist diaspora Turks after what they do to minorities in their homeland?

[T_C]

LMAO!!!!!!!!

You PLONKER!

[shahmaran]

LMAO!!!!!!!!

You PLONKER!

Agreed!


This guy is a very unsuccessful comedian!

[Nikephoros]

I am comedian? Yet you ask me a Greek if I have lived in Turkey, as if Turkey is some safe country to live in for Greeks?

Today the exact numbers of the Greeks of Istanbul are unknown but they number somewhere from 1,000 to 2,500. ( Vryonis, Speros. "The Mechanism of Catastrophe: The Turkish Pogrom Of September 6-7, 1955, And The Destruction Of The Greek Community Of Istanbul." Greekworks.com, (New York, 2005) p. 559.) The Greek community in Turkey in Istanbul alone used to number over 100,000 after Turkey was founded.

I guess in a fascist country as this thread shows, it has hard for Turkish citiziens to absorb such facts as why a Greek would never want to live in Turkey.

[shahmaran]

Stop mixing up the events with you half knowledge in order to quickly bring us to your sad conclusion that an ENTIRE country must be fascist due to a few isolated occasions.

What did you do in Izmir on your way out of here after a ridiculous defeat? What is going on with the Thracian Turks and their rights TODAY within a supposedly "safe" EU country? Do you ever ask yourself?

Probably not, because you think the extreme right of one country represents the whole, which is why you are a fine example of a racist piece of shit!

[Nikephoros]

Speaking of Thracian Turks and their fascism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzZE3NQGJZ8
During a meeting of the Turkish Union of Xanthi there was a debate in Turkish that the Greek newspaper circulated and subtitled to Greek so Hellenes can see what kind of hateful and fanatic groups are Sunni Muslim Turks.
Abdulhalim Dede, journalist @3:17 min. mark:

In our villages we know exactly who votes for the giaours(infidels). How come we do not isolate them socially and punish them to see if they dare to vote for Sgouride(Greek politicians who earlier in his tirade of hate he castigates as an enemy of Turkey) for Kondo, and for their mothers!

Dede even won a human rights award before that wonderful speech by fooling Westerners with hudna and al-Taqiyya/Dissimulation. See http://www.hnd.hr/seemo/index.php?id=1208

Even in Thrace the biggest fascists are Turkish men like the journalist, radio host Dede who likes to pretend to be a human rights activist when he is not making threats regarding who votes for which candidate in Greek elections.

[shahmaran]

Yeah nice diversion there genius...

[Nikephoros]

It is not a diversion, your comments are all diversions. It is an example of what kind of fascist a leader of Turks in Greece is.

http://www.hnd.hr/seemo/index.php?id=1208

After careful deliberation, SEEMO Board Members have chosen Abdulhalim Dede, a journalist and a member of the Turkish-Muslim minority living and working in Western Thrace, Greece, as this year’s recipient. Dede has been active in journalism for the last 30 years. He is also a human and minority rights activist, participating actively in a number of national and international NGOs. He is the owner of an independent minority weekly local newspaper (Trakya’ nin Sesi) and a local radio station (Isik FM).

You say I am judging Turks by a minority. It is really the whole group even leaders like Dede(promiment journalist, runs radio station) who are fascist/Islamic.